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Our current situation

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 5:53 am
by Ziran
This is perhaps the best explanation of our current situation and how we got here (despite its silly title). Well worth reading:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/11/ ... chers.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

A few quotes:
This is why I shake my head when hearing talk of how conservatives can possibly "win over" women or Hispanics or blacks or whatever the latest pander-worthy group may be, of how they need to "reach out" or "reframe their message," as if everyone is a logic-worshipping Mr. Spock did it ever occur to these tacticians that the problem isn't mainly a matter of intellect, but emotion?

The truth is that the cold intellect is generally outmatched by hot emotion, even, sometimes, when we do know better. The ancient sage Confucius lamented this when saying, "It is not that I do not know what to do; it is that I do not do what I know."

Failing to consider how often emotion, or our animal nature, trumps intellect is one of the most common mistakes made when predicting man's behavior.

Northerners and Mexicans move to greener pastures because that feels right, then vote for statists because that feels right. Women want security and "reproductive freedom," young people a hopeful future, and blacks a civil-rights utopia because those things feel right, but then vote for politicians who would destroy their rights, freedom, and future because that feels right. And it all is eminently logical if you understand that man is often illogical.

And we're not going to reason people out of positions they haven't reasoned themselves into, to paraphrase Ben Franklin. The "emerging demographic majority" will just behave unreasonably and, like the proverbial scorpion that stung the duck ferrying him across a river, thus guaranteeing both their deaths, essentially say, "I could not help myself. It is my nature!"

Of course, this doesn't mean that some individuals won't have a conversion of heart, but anomalies don't discredit averages. And as ex-KGB Soviet defector Yuri Bezmenov said about these "demoralized" people in the 1980s already, "You are stuck with them." You won't change them. All you could do is devote 15-20 years to educating a new generation of patriotic Americans

This is the reality of our situation. Accepting it would do far more good than trying to take the helm of a ship that sailed, and sank, long ago.

Re: Our current situation

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:33 am
by Jumping Frog
Well, I completely agree with everything you quoted. Now I'll go read the article.

Normally I would read the article before responding, but this time it "felt right" to respond before I knew what I was talking about. "rlol"

Re: Our current situation

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:20 am
by 57Coastie
Ziran wrote: And we're not going to reason people out of positions they haven't reasoned themselves into, to paraphrase Ben Franklin.
Selwyn Duke, an exceptionally brilliant writer and advocate, regardless of what his cause may be at the time, paraphrasing another fine writer. I, too, find myself agreeing with Duke at times.

After abandoning signature lines some time ago, I find that I must now plagiarize them both.

Jim

Re: Our current situation

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 7:15 pm
by txhighlander
Outstanding read, thanks for sharing.

Re: Our current situation

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 12:50 am
by JALLEN
In my view, the war over big government, probably a euphemism for socialism, was lost long ago.

Today, people don't really care about freedom to excel. They aren't going to found the next Microsoft, or Bain Capital, or even a 5 and dime or a gas station. They want help getting Mama into a nursing home, someone to pay for school for the kids (notice I did not say "educating the kids" two entirely concepts), somebody to front the cost of an accident or illness or job loss, so they don't lose everything and can keep up the payments the ginormous dual axle, dual cab 7.0 liter raised pick up truck that gets 7 mpg and the 55" flat screen TV, and a trip to Vegas every now and then. The socialists promise that, or at least don't imperil it. Legal weed, too.