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Senate bill rewrite lets feds read your e-mail without warra

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:02 pm
by The Annoyed Man
Senate bill rewrite lets feds read your e-mail without warrants
Proposed law scheduled for a vote next week originally increased Americans' e-mail privacy. Then law enforcement complained. Now it increases government access to e-mail and other digital files.
by Declan McCullagh November 20, 2012 4:00 AM PST
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57552 ... &tag=title
A Senate proposal touted as protecting Americans' e-mail privacy has been quietly rewritten, giving government agencies more surveillance power than they possess under current law.

CNET has learned that Patrick Leahy, the influential Democratic chairman of the Senate Judiciary committee, has dramatically reshaped his legislation in response to law enforcement concerns. A vote on his bill, which now authorizes warrantless access to Americans' e-mail, is scheduled for next week.

Leahy's rewritten bill would allow more than 22 agencies -- including the Securities and Exchange Commission and the Federal Communications Commission -- to access Americans' e-mail, Google Docs files, Facebook wall posts, and Twitter direct messages without a search warrant. It also would give the FBI and Homeland Security more authority, in some circumstances, to gain full access to Internet accounts without notifying either the owner or a judge.

It's an abrupt departure from Leahy's earlier approach, which required police to obtain a search warrant backed by probable cause before they could read the contents of e-mail or other communications. The Vermont Democrat boasted last year that his bill "provides enhanced privacy protections for American consumers by... requiring that the government obtain a search warrant."

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Revised bill highlights
✭ Grants warrantless access to Americans' electronic correspondence to over 22 federal agencies. Only a subpoena is required, not a search warrant signed by a judge based on probable cause.
✭ Permits state and local law enforcement to warrantlessly access Americans' correspondence stored on systems not offered "to the public," including university networks.
✭ Authorizes any law enforcement agency to access accounts without a warrant -- or subsequent court review -- if they claim "emergency" situations exist.
✭ Says providers "shall notify" law enforcement in advance of any plans to tell their customers that they've been the target of a warrant, order, or subpoena.
✭ Delays notification of customers whose accounts have been accessed from 3 days to "10 business days." This notification can be postponed by up to 360 days.
Remember that is Senate DEMONCRAPS who are pushing this bill through.

By pushing this bill, if it passes and becomes law, not only will the federal government no longer be your friend, but neither will your state and local governments any longer.

Democrats believe in a police state. Remember that when you vote. When you vote for a democrat, THIS is the kind of fascist police state crap you are voting for.....whether you're willing to confront that fact, or keep your head buried in the sand, you're voting for pure evil.

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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:34 pm
by AEA
The House should/will table it the same way Reid tables all the House Bills and refuses to vote on them.

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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:50 pm
by sjfcontrol
Sounds like a Democratic "Trojan Horse". Author a bill that increases personal privacy and security, then quietly turn it on its head. :skep:

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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 4:50 pm
by Rex B
Sure would be helpful if the actual bill number were posted, just in case someone wanted to write his or her representative.

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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 4:56 pm
by Oldgringo
Dick Cheney may not have been a real good shot but he was right about Leahy. :evil2:

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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 4:57 pm
by The Annoyed Man
Rex B wrote:Sure would be helpful if the actual bill number were posted, just in case someone wanted to write his or her representative.
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d112:s.01011:
S.1011
Latest Title: Electronic Communications Privacy Act Amendments Act of 2011
Sponsor: Sen Leahy, Patrick J. [VT] (introduced 5/17/2011) Cosponsors (None)
Latest Major Action: 5/17/2011 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on the Judiciary.
That's the original bill. What's being done here is a rewrite of that bill before it gets out of committee.

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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 5:02 pm
by WildBill
Rex B wrote:Sure would be helpful if the actual bill number were posted, just in case someone wanted to write his or her representative.
Vote for it and once it's passed you can see what it says. :patriot:

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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 5:50 pm
by The Annoyed Man
WildBill wrote:
Rex B wrote:Sure would be helpful if the actual bill number were posted, just in case someone wanted to write his or her representative.
Vote for it and once it's passed you can see what it says. :patriot:
Aaaah... another democrat! :mrgreen:

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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:20 pm
by Rex B
The Annoyed Man wrote:
Rex B wrote:Sure would be helpful if the actual bill number were posted, just in case someone wanted to write his or her representative.
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d112:s.01011:
S.1011
Latest Title: Electronic Communications Privacy Act Amendments Act of 2011
Sponsor: Sen Leahy, Patrick J. [VT] (introduced 5/17/2011) Cosponsors (None)
Latest Major Action: 5/17/2011 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on the Judiciary.
That's the original bill. What's being done here is a rewrite of that bill before it gets out of committee.
Wrote to Cornyn. If it is still around when Cruz gets there he will kick up some sand .

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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:26 pm
by dave_in_austin
Leahy has evidently dropped the bill.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57552 ... ance-bill/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:02 pm
by chasfm11
dave_in_austin wrote:Leahy has evidently dropped the bill.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57552 ... ance-bill/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I figure this stuff is similar to the TSA strategy - let's try something radical and see if the public lets us get away with it. The politicians are like teenagers - always testing their boundaries.

That, of course, applies to the things that are made public. For other things like the EPA, they go to great lengths to keep the public from getting any sort of glimpse of what is really going on until it is too late.

The only thing that Leahy has going for him is that compared to some of his colleagues, he looks like a saint :banghead:

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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:26 pm
by The Annoyed Man
That guy Leahy is a snake. He didn't give a damn about crushing human liberty until it got him some bad press. Why did it not occur to him that this was wrong in the first place? BECAUSE HE'S A DEMOCRAT, AND HIS MORAL COMPASS IS BROKEN.........but I repeat myself.

God how I hate that party of fascist totalitarians.

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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 9:59 am
by tommyg
We loose our privacy.. crooks find ways around it....Busisness as usual

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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:29 pm
by alvins
yea well all these businesses using google docs to store their stuff "in the cloud" are even more crazy.

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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:47 pm
by baldeagle
dave_in_austin wrote:Leahy has evidently dropped the bill.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57552 ... ance-bill/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
So he says. Why should we believe him?