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Let’s Have That Conversation About Guns

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 11:26 am
by JJVP
http://m.townhall.com/columnists/kurtsc ... s-n1468596" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Let’s Have That Conversation About Guns

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 11:39 am
by RPB
real good article, thanks

Re: Let’s Have That Conversation About Guns

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 11:50 am
by jayinsat
Add to that this Harvard study:
http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/org ... online.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Let’s Have That Conversation About Guns

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 11:57 am
by RoyGBiv
jayinsat wrote:Add to that this Harvard study:
http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/org ... online.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Oooo.. FACTS and DATA... Nice.. Thanks.!
In 2004, the U.S. National Academy of Sciences released its evaluation
from a review of 253 journal articles, 99 books, 43 government
publications, and some original empirical research. It failed to
identify any gun control that had reduced violent crime, suicide,
or gun accidents.15 The same conclusion was reached in
2003 by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control’s review of the nextant
studies.16

Re: Let’s Have That Conversation About Guns

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 12:35 pm
by Thomas
RoyGBiv wrote:
jayinsat wrote:Add to that this Harvard study:
http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/org ... online.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Oooo.. FACTS and DATA... Nice.. Thanks.!
The quote from the PDF should read as:
In 2004, the U.S. National Academy of Sciences released its evaluation
from a review of 253 journal articles, 99 books, 43 government
publications, and some original empirical research. It failed to
identify any gun control that had reduced violent crime, suicide,
or gun accidents. The same conclusion was reached in
2003 by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control’s review of then-extant
studies.

Re: Let’s Have That Conversation About Guns

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 12:44 pm
by Oldgringo
:clapping: I'm thanking y'all for these articles so that I can find when I need 'em.

Re: Let’s Have That Conversation About Guns

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 9:15 pm
by JJVP
Another good article.

http://www.stgeorgeutah.com/news/archiv ... mment-6904" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Let’s Have That Conversation About Guns

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 9:37 pm
by 77346
RoyGBiv wrote:Oooo.. FACTS and DATA... Nice.. Thanks.!
:nono: But what we need in times like this EMOTIONS and MISINFORMATION to make KNEE-JERK REACTION decisions... :biggrinjester:

Re: Let’s Have That Conversation About Guns

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 9:44 pm
by longhorn_92
Liberal anti-gun activists do not let fact and truth get in the way... They thrive on Emotion and they are working hard to make these "evil rifles" banned. You can't have a civil conversation about guns... just look at Piers Morgan.

Re: Let’s Have That Conversation About Guns

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 9:55 pm
by 77346
Piers is the worse! I mean, why in the world does he care? If it's all that good in the UK, by all means, he needs to head back there! Imagine that, a Brit lecturing Americans on what our rights should be! But he gets extremely emotional and doesn't let any of his guests speak on any subject he's against...

Re: Let’s Have That Conversation About Guns

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:29 pm
by baldeagle
Here's another one: http://www.inquisitr.com/442129/more-gu ... tt-claims/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Let’s Have That Conversation About Guns

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:30 pm
by baldeagle
And another from Lott: http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Lott-g ... /id/467903" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Let’s Have That Conversation About Guns

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:57 am
by 57Coastie
As a dedicated long-time CHL holder, and a strong supporter of our Bill of Rights, including the 2nd Amendment as thus far construed by our Supreme Court, I agree that we need a conversation about guns. For example:

1. We need the NRA to come out of hiding in an undisclosed location and join the conversation, and

2. We need a bunch of spineless U. S. Senators to join this conversation. 'Meet The Press' host David Gregory said that no pro-gun rights senators would agree to go on the show on Sunday. "We reached out to all 31 pro-gun rights senators in the new Congress to invite them on the program to share their views on the subject this morning," he said. "We had no takers." {Emphasis added.] 'Face the Nation' had a similar problem.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-575 ... ly-silent/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Jim

Re: Let’s Have That Conversation About Guns

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 9:12 am
by anygunanywhere
57Coastie wrote:As a dedicated long-time CHL holder, and a strong supporter of our Bill of Rights, including the 2nd Amendment as construed by our Supreme Court, I agree that we need a conversation about guns. For example:

1. We need the NRA to come out of hiding in an undisclosed location and join the conversation, and

2. We need a bunch of spineless U. S. Senators to join this conversation. 'Meet The Press' host David Gregory said that no pro-gun rights senators would agree to go on the show on Sunday. "We reached out to all 31 pro-gun rights senators in the new Congress to invite them on the program to share their views on the subject this morning," he said. "We had no takers." {Emphasis added.] 'Face the Nation' had a similar problem.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-575 ... ly-silent/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Jim
Allow the emotions to die down a bit and then choose battles. The object is to win the war. We cannot engage all of wasted screaming and crying. The grabbers want to hammer us with emotion on the national stage. As has been stated ad nauseum, reason and logic does not work at times like this.

Anygunanywhere

Re: Let’s Have That Conversation About Guns

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 9:56 am
by sooperdooper
57Coastie wrote:As a dedicated long-time CHL holder, and a strong supporter of our Bill of Rights, including the 2nd Amendment as construed by our Supreme Court, I agree that we need a conversation about guns. For example:

1. We need the NRA to come out of hiding in an undisclosed location and join the conversation, and

2. We need a bunch of spineless U. S. Senators to join this conversation. 'Meet The Press' host David Gregory said that no pro-gun rights senators would agree to go on the show on Sunday. "We reached out to all 31 pro-gun rights senators in the new Congress to invite them on the program to share their views on the subject this morning," he said. "We had no takers." {Emphasis added.] 'Face the Nation' had a similar problem.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-575 ... ly-silent/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Jim
Part of the reason for that is because when they DO go on those shows, they are hammered 6 to 1 and barely allowed to utter a word through all of the liberal banter.