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COPS in Schools

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 3:35 pm
by Shoot_First
I fail to understand why the NRA is being denounced by the liberal media for its proposal to put LEOs in schools when such is similar to the 1999 Clinton era "COPS in Schools (CIS) program. Seems as though the NRA should counter by pointing this out.

http://www.cops.usdoj.gov/default.asp?Item=54
The COPS in Schools (CIS) grant program is designed to help law enforcement agencies hire new, additional school resource officers (SROs) to engage in community policing in and around primary and secondary schools. CIS provides an incentive for law enforcement agencies to build collaborative partnerships with the school community and to use community policing efforts to combat school violence.

The COPS in Schools program provides a maximum federal contribution up of to $125,000 per officer position for approved salary and benefit costs over the 3-year grant period, with any remaining costs to be paid with local funds. Officers paid with CIS funding must be hired on or after the grant award start date. All jurisdictions that apply must also demonstrate that they have primary law enforcement authority over the school(s) identified in their application, and also demonstrate their inability to implement this project without federal assistance. Funding will begin when the new officers are hired on or after the grant award date, and will be paid over the course of the 3-year grant period.

COPS has announced 19 rounds of funding under the COPS in Schools program, including five that were a part of the Safe Schools/Healthy Students Initiative, a joint initiative between the Departments of Justice, Education, and Health and Human Services. The Safe Schools/Healthy Students grant program was developed to provide students, schools, and communities with the benefit of enhanced educational, mental health, and law enforcement services to promote a comprehensive healthy childhood development.

Re: COPS in Schools

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 3:40 pm
by C-dub
Because now a conservative is suggesting it.

Re: COPS in Schools

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 8:09 pm
by nitrogen
Honestly? Because this will cost money. It's much easier for non-gunners to hem and haw about banning things they know nothing about, than it is to suggest something that will have a demonstrated effect, but cost money.

Personally, I think spending or pushing this kind of manpower and cost for something that happens 20-30 times per year is a bad use of manpower and funds. It's people overreacting to a problem that really doesn't exist.

Having said that, it's a better overreaction than banning tools, and one I'd rather have.

Re: COPS in Schools

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 8:20 pm
by The Dude
C-dub wrote:Because now a conservative is suggesting it.
It reminds me how the Soros Squad was staging protests against US troops in Iraq and Afghanistan when Bush was CinC and then vanished as quickly as a snow flake in Hades when Obama took power.

Re: COPS in Schools

Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 4:36 am
by Jumping Frog
I don't think that cops in schools are the answer either.

The only workable solution is to allow armed teachers and CHLS.

Re: COPS in Schools

Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 5:41 am
by Beiruty
Jumping Frog wrote:I don't think that cops in schools are the answer either.

The only workable solution is to allow armed teachers and CHLS.
Actually, you need both. The more fire power the better. Suicidal shooter will stop attacking when they are shot first and killed at the perimeter of today's gun-free-zone. If they fail at door few times in a row, they will stop hurting innocent lives.

Re: COPS in Schools

Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 11:14 am
by chasfm11
Jumping Frog wrote:I don't think that cops in schools are the answer either.

The only workable solution is to allow armed teachers and CHLS.
:iagree: I would add volunteer CHL parents and maybe even grandparents. There are a lot of volunteers working in the schools already and I really like the Israeli model for handling this situation.

I'm an ex-teacher (still hold a permanent teaching certification) and would be happy to help out in our granddaughter's school a couple of days a week. I could help with other things besides being there as a last line of defense against another mad man.

In the mean time, I still think the NRA approach is a good one. It turns the discussion away from a gun ban as the only thing possible. As Wayne says, it is something that, with funding, could happen right away while the gun-free zone laws are repealed and plans put in place for teachers and others to be allowed to arm themselves. I do think that it would be a good idea for programs to be developed so that the local PD was aware of what was going on and I would gladly accept additional instruction about better techniques in that kind of environment.