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10+ round magazine ban

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 6:18 am
by papajohn1964
If this bill gets passed what happens to pistols, like my Glock 19, with a 15 rounder? Will there be some sort of plug like you put in a shotgun to make it legal?

Re: 10+ round magazine ban

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 6:29 am
by jmra
Would all depend on how the bill was written. If existing mags were not grandfathered you would probably have to replace them with 10 rd mags.

Re: 10+ round magazine ban

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 7:21 am
by Shoot_First
Just replace your 15 rounder with two 10 rounders so the world will be safer. Duh!

Re: 10+ round magazine ban

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 7:24 am
by papabear
Or tell them to fly a kite. :nono:

Daughter rule translation.

Re: 10+ round magazine ban

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 9:09 am
by RPB
Shoot_First wrote:Just replace your 15 rounder with two 10 rounders so the world will be safer. Duh!
or four reduced capacity mags with plugs limiting each to ten rounds
(Not my gun, saw it elsewhere in a California forum where mag limits are in effect) "rlol"
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Re: 10+ round magazine ban

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:41 am
by VMI77
jmra wrote:Would all depend on how the bill was written. If existing mags were not grandfathered you would probably have to replace them with 10 rd mags.
No, the way it has been publicized, all Glocks will be banned. Semi-autos "capable" of accepting a magazine of a capacity of greater than 10 rounds and that have one "military" feature (rail) will be banned --unless the actual bill is different than the language posted by DiFi.

Re: 10+ round magazine ban

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 6:45 pm
by jmra
VMI77 wrote:
jmra wrote:Would all depend on how the bill was written. If existing mags were not grandfathered you would probably have to replace them with 10 rd mags.
No, the way it has been publicized, all Glocks will be banned. Semi-autos "capable" of accepting a magazine of a capacity of greater than 10 rounds and that have one "military" feature (rail) will be banned --unless the actual bill is different than the language posted by DiFi.
I guess I should have asked which bill we are discussing. I assumed we were discussing a hypothetical ban. If we are discussing DF's proposal then the OP should have posted in an existing thread.
I have little concern about DFs proposal as it doesn't have a snowballs chance.

Re: 10+ round magazine ban

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 7:36 pm
by sjfcontrol
jmra wrote:
VMI77 wrote:
jmra wrote:Would all depend on how the bill was written. If existing mags were not grandfathered you would probably have to replace them with 10 rd mags.
No, the way it has been publicized, all Glocks will be banned. Semi-autos "capable" of accepting a magazine of a capacity of greater than 10 rounds and that have one "military" feature (rail) will be banned --unless the actual bill is different than the language posted by DiFi.
I guess I should have asked which bill we are discussing. I assumed we were discussing a hypothetical ban. If we are discussing DF's proposal then the OP should have posted in an existing thread.
I have little concern about DFs proposal as it doesn't have a snowballs chance.
That's what I thought about Obama's chance last November.

Re: 10+ round magazine ban

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 9:23 pm
by jmra
sjfcontrol wrote:
jmra wrote:
VMI77 wrote:
jmra wrote:Would all depend on how the bill was written. If existing mags were not grandfathered you would probably have to replace them with 10 rd mags.
No, the way it has been publicized, all Glocks will be banned. Semi-autos "capable" of accepting a magazine of a capacity of greater than 10 rounds and that have one "military" feature (rail) will be banned --unless the actual bill is different than the language posted by DiFi.
I guess I should have asked which bill we are discussing. I assumed we were discussing a hypothetical ban. If we are discussing DF's proposal then the OP should have posted in an existing thread.
I have little concern about DFs proposal as it doesn't have a snowballs chance.
That's what I thought about Obama's chance last November.
If there wasn't enough support in IL to leave a similar bill on the table then it doesn't stand a chance outside IL.

I'm not saying there won't be some kind of ban, but it won't be her bill.

Re: 10+ round magazine ban

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:20 pm
by dac1842
The boys and girls in DC can't pass gas right now, odds of them passing anything else are pretty slim.

Re: 10+ round magazine ban

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 5:37 am
by papajohn1964
jmra wrote:
VMI77 wrote:
jmra wrote:Would all depend on how the bill was written. If existing mags were not grandfathered you would probably have to replace them with 10 rd mags.
No, the way it has been publicized, all Glocks will be banned. Semi-autos "capable" of accepting a magazine of a capacity of greater than 10 rounds and that have one "military" feature (rail) will be banned --unless the actual bill is different than the language posted by DiFi.
I guess I should have asked which bill we are discussing. I assumed we were discussing a hypothetical ban. If we are discussing DF's proposal then the OP should have posted in an existing thread.
I have little concern about DFs proposal as it doesn't have a snowballs chance.
Not sure what proposal I read and if this should have been posted elsewhere I apologize. I currently own a G-19 and a G-26 and have a G-19 on order since my wife decided to make the 26 "her gun". I can use the 19 mag in the 26 but not the other way around that's why I asked about a plug. Semi-autos "capable" of accepting a magazine of a capacity of greater than 10 rounds and that have one "military" feature (rail) will be banned. Doesn't this include most SA pistols?

Re: 10+ round magazine ban

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 5:48 am
by jmra
papajohn1964 wrote:
jmra wrote:
VMI77 wrote:
jmra wrote:Would all depend on how the bill was written. If existing mags were not grandfathered you would probably have to replace them with 10 rd mags.
No, the way it has been publicized, all Glocks will be banned. Semi-autos "capable" of accepting a magazine of a capacity of greater than 10 rounds and that have one "military" feature (rail) will be banned --unless the actual bill is different than the language posted by DiFi.
I guess I should have asked which bill we are discussing. I assumed we were discussing a hypothetical ban. If we are discussing DF's proposal then the OP should have posted in an existing thread.
I have little concern about DFs proposal as it doesn't have a snowballs chance.
Not sure what proposal I read and if this should have been posted elsewhere I apologize. I currently own a G-19 and a G-26 and have a G-19 on order since my wife decided to make the 26 "her gun". I can use the 19 mag in the 26 but not the other way around that's why I asked about a plug. Semi-autos "capable" of accepting a magazine of a capacity of greater than 10 rounds and that have one "military" feature (rail) will be banned. Doesn't this include most SA pistols?
I don't think there is any chance that any handgun is going to get banned. I think the best the left could hope for is something similar to what CA has which would mean using 10 rd mags in everything. IMHO, I don't see that happening either.
At this point everything is just speculation. I don't even try to play out all the what ifs. I can tell you this, if it was the DF proposal you were reading, it doesn't stand a chance in the senate much less the house.

Re: 10+ round magazine ban

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 5:52 am
by jdhz28
papajohn1964 wrote:
jmra wrote:
VMI77 wrote:
jmra wrote:Would all depend on how the bill was written. If existing mags were not grandfathered you would probably have to replace them with 10 rd mags.

Not sure what proposal I read and if this should have been posted elsewhere I apologize. I currently own a G-19 and a G-26 and have a G-19 on order since my wife decided to make the 26 "her gun". I can use the 19 mag in the 26 but not the other way around that's why I asked about a plug. Semi-autos "capable" of accepting a magazine of a capacity of greater than 10 rounds and that have one "military" feature (rail) will be banned. Doesn't this include most SA pistols?
I am curious about this part as well, my 30-30 that is older than I am has a rail mounted scope...seems to be a bit far off base to ban that feature.

Re: 10+ round magazine ban

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 6:03 am
by gigag04
papajohn1964 wrote:If this bill gets passed what happens to pistols, like my Glock 19, with a 15 rounder?
Nothing...that's the nature of gun control laws.

Re: 10+ round magazine ban

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:09 pm
by VMI77
papajohn1964 wrote:
jmra wrote:
VMI77 wrote:
jmra wrote:Would all depend on how the bill was written. If existing mags were not grandfathered you would probably have to replace them with 10 rd mags.
No, the way it has been publicized, all Glocks will be banned. Semi-autos "capable" of accepting a magazine of a capacity of greater than 10 rounds and that have one "military" feature (rail) will be banned --unless the actual bill is different than the language posted by DiFi.
I guess I should have asked which bill we are discussing. I assumed we were discussing a hypothetical ban. If we are discussing DF's proposal then the OP should have posted in an existing thread.
I have little concern about DFs proposal as it doesn't have a snowballs chance.
Not sure what proposal I read and if this should have been posted elsewhere I apologize. I currently own a G-19 and a G-26 and have a G-19 on order since my wife decided to make the 26 "her gun". I can use the 19 mag in the 26 but not the other way around that's why I asked about a plug. Semi-autos "capable" of accepting a magazine of a capacity of greater than 10 rounds and that have one "military" feature (rail) will be banned. Doesn't this include most SA pistols?
Well, the "military feature" thing is the question that has to be answered to answer that question. I'm assuming a rail will be one such feature. I have no idea what other military feature a handgun might have because it's a completely made up term to begin with. But, assuming things like rails and laser sights are considered military features, guns like the 1911 would be OK as long as you didn't put a laser on it. OTOH, maybe the 1911 will be considered a military weapon....who knows. I'm just pointing out that the language is written to make every semi-auto handgun with a detachable mag subject to the ban since any such gun can be fitted with a mag of over 10 round capacity, and said to have a "military" feature.