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Tell me about 17 HMR...

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 8:53 pm
by Shinesintx
I see 17 HMR being stocked. I guess it's like .22 but smaller?

I want to buy a rifle to shoot it...what do I get? I would like it to be semi auto and hold more than 10.

Thanks for the suggestions.

Edit: Maybe I should just get a ruger 10/22? What are some good options for a 22 semi auto? I know squat about 22 rifles.

Re: Tell me about 17 HMR...

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 9:12 pm
by CC Italian
It is a necked down .22wmr with lighter bullets and a faster fps. My buddy has one in a Ruger bolt action and it is crazy sick accurate! Sorry that is the only way I can describe it. He shot it next to my dads 10/22 and while the .22lr round was very accurate the .17hmr had the holes touching on pretty much any shot out to 100yards. It is a great target and varmint round but I don't know if it really offers anything over the .22wmr. Someone probably knows more then me about it.

Re: Tell me about 17 HMR...

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 9:13 pm
by SF18C
My daughter has a Mossberg 702 Plinkster in .22LR. We have 2 ten round mags and 1X 25 rnd Mag. She also has a small scope.

It is a great gun to learn the fundamentals of rifle shooting and target practice. Ammo is cheap...when I can find it!

http://www.mossbergintl.com/pages/702plinkster.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This site has a good run down for 17HMR

http://www.chuckhawks.com/compared_17HM ... rifles.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Tell me about 17 HMR...

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 9:16 pm
by CC Italian
I do remember that it was pretty expensive compared to .22lr ammo. That I can tell you. I am not sure if it costs more the .22wmr though?

Re: Tell me about 17 HMR...

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 9:38 pm
by eureka40
It's about 0.30 cents a round at ATG.

http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/index.php ... listic-tip" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I just paid the same for 22 mag PDX1 Winchester.

Re: Tell me about 17 HMR...

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 10:28 pm
by CC Italian
Here helped you out.

http://www.sgammo.com/catalog/rimfire-ammunition/17-hmr Just under 20c per round before shipping.

http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.ph ... 7-hmr.html 24c a round before shipping if you don't buy bulk

If I order online I always buy bulk. Shipping costs to much and it isn't worth it unless you buy in bulk imo. Plus it is so easy to shoot 500 rounds of rimfire at a time in a rifle. Especially if it is a semi auto like the 10/22. Before you know it you just blew through 300 rounds when you have those big butler creek mags.

Re: Tell me about 17 HMR...

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:47 pm
by Shinesintx
SF18C wrote:My daughter has a Mossberg 702 Plinkster in .22LR. We have 2 ten round mags and 1X 25 rnd Mag. She also has a small scope.

It is a great gun to learn the fundamentals of rifle shooting and target practice. Ammo is cheap...when I can find it!

http://www.mossbergintl.com/pages/702plinkster.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This site has a good run down for 17HMR

http://www.chuckhawks.com/compared_17HM ... rifles.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Can't believe they cost under 200 bucks...guess I am going shopping this weekend. :thumbs2:

Re: Tell me about 17 HMR...

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 12:01 am
by SF18C
Shinesintx wrote:
SF18C wrote:My daughter has a Mossberg 702 Plinkster in .22LR. We have 2 ten round mags and 1X 25 rnd Mag. She also has a small scope.

It is a great gun to learn the fundamentals of rifle shooting and target practice. Ammo is cheap...when I can find it!

http://www.mossbergintl.com/pages/702plinkster.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This site has a good run down for 17HMR

http://www.chuckhawks.com/compared_17HM ... rifles.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Can't believe they cost under 200 bucks...guess I am going shopping this weekend. :thumbs2:

I think I paid $125 in Jan of this year.

Re: Tell me about 17 HMR...

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 1:18 am
by grim-bob
seem to remember several issues with 17hmr and semiautos having issues. i think even a few companies pulled their semiauto rifles for that caliber if I remember right. Pretty much a bolt gun only round. Same as others here that it is a fun little accurate round from the few times I had a chance to shoot it.

Re: Tell me about 17 HMR...

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 1:36 am
by Shinesintx
grim-bob wrote:seem to remember several issues with 17hmr and semiautos having issues. i think even a few companies pulled their semiauto rifles for that caliber if I remember right. Pretty much a bolt gun only round. Same as others here that it is a fun little accurate round from the few times I had a chance to shoot it.
Did some googling...came up with the issues of 17 in an auto. I think I'll just get a 22.

Re: Tell me about 17 HMR...

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 7:31 am
by Jumping Frog
No-one makes a semiauto in this caliber anymore.

Re: Tell me about 17 HMR...

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 8:52 am
by RPB
I think it's rimfire
pointy tipped bullets in tube magazines sometimes one pointy bullet set off the primer or charge on the cartridge in front of it..seems that could be an issue with any tube mag of it was dropped butt first from a rooftop... but I think some were going off just due to recoil

I dunno why the detach mag ones stopped production, I thought there was still one company making an AR-15-ish design in 17 HMR, doubt you'll find one though.

17 has become just a revolver type ammo from what I've found, Stores have the ammo still, guns aren't cheap, I shopped, decided to shop for other calibers of guns for which ammo isn't short supply; just window shopping so far

Re: Tell me about 17 HMR...

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 12:21 pm
by VMI77
Jumping Frog wrote:No-one makes a semiauto in this caliber anymore.

Not true. Volquartsen makes them. But they're expensive, starting at around $1500 I think. Those that have the Volquarten love them. Too pricey for me.

Re: Tell me about 17 HMR...

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 12:24 pm
by VMI77
From what I understand, the problem with semi-autos is a gas/timing issue. Apparently, due to the relative power of the round and light weight bullet, semi-autos are subject to going off out of battery. I don't think it happens very much, but enough that most manufacturers aren't willing to accept the liability. So, it's bolt action or lever action. I bought a bolt action because they can be had cheap, and for the reason you suggest --I can find ammo for it. It's a blast to shoot.

Re: Tell me about 17 HMR...

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 12:27 pm
by VMI77
RPB wrote:I think it's rimfire
pointy tipped bullets in tube magazines sometimes one pointy bullet set off the primer or charge on the cartridge in front of it..seems that could be an issue with any tube mag of it was dropped butt first from a rooftop... but I think some were going off just due to recoil

I dunno why the detach mag ones stopped production, I thought there was still one company making an AR-15-ish design in 17 HMR, doubt you'll find one though.

17 has become just a revolver type ammo from what I've found, Stores have the ammo still, guns aren't cheap, I shopped, decided to shop for other calibers of guns for which ammo isn't short supply; just window shopping so far
All the bolt action ones I've seen have detachable mags. In fact, a lot of them seem to be 7 round mags, which makes me wonder if the reason for the 7 round limit in NY is to protect some legislator that has a 17 HMR.