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HB 700 (open carry)

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:47 pm
by Gat0rs
FYI, is on schedule for Thursday committee eharing in house.

Re: HB 700 (open carry)

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:55 pm
by Gat0rs
http://www.house.state.tx.us/committees ... session=82" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Comittee members if you would like to write.

Re: HB 700 (open carry)

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:18 pm
by nightmare69
The federal AWB will be voted on by the Senate Committee this Tuesday. I have a feeling its going to fail.

Re: HB 700 (open carry)

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 4:08 pm
by RPB
nightmare69 wrote:The federal AWB will be voted on by the Senate Committee this Tuesday. I have a feeling its going to fail.
I had a feeling Obama couldn't win in 2008
I had that feeling again in 2012, but in October I made some wise purchases because 2008 taught me not to trust feelin's
:lol:

Re: HB 700 (open carry)

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:54 pm
by JKTex
Unless I'm missing a thread somewhere, I'm really surprised these are getting more attention here. I see more threads on what's going on in other states or even in DC than Texas.

Both Open Carry bills, if I'm reading the current versions, are no better than the last time and will waste the time of those that need to ensure they fail.

When will they get it, that we do NOT want to destroy all the work done over nearly 2 decades for the CHL? They need to leave 30.06 alone and allow private property owners to prohibit open carry if they so desire. It's the only way to preserve what we have now without going back nearly 150 years and fixing what was done then.

Re: HB 700 (open carry)

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:00 pm
by RottenApple
JKTex wrote:Unless I'm missing a thread somewhere, I'm really surprised these are getting more attention here. I see more threads on what's going on in other states or even in DC than Texas.

Both Open Carry bills, if I'm reading the current versions, are no better than the last time and will waste the time of those that need to ensure they fail.

When will they get it, that we do NOT want to destroy all the work done over nearly 2 decades for the CHL? They need to leave 30.06 alone and allow private property owners to prohibit open carry if they so desire. It's the only way to preserve what we have now without going back nearly 150 years and fixing what was done then.
Perhaps you haven't caught up on all the different conversations here regard HB700 (open carry). HB700 will be substituted in committe and will NOT touch 30.06. Instead it will create a new section, 30.07, to use for prohibiting OC.

Re: HB 700 (open carry)

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:20 pm
by ScottDLS
RottenApple wrote:
JKTex wrote:Unless I'm missing a thread somewhere, I'm really surprised these are getting more attention here. I see more threads on what's going on in other states or even in DC than Texas.

Both Open Carry bills, if I'm reading the current versions, are no better than the last time and will waste the time of those that need to ensure they fail.

When will they get it, that we do NOT want to destroy all the work done over nearly 2 decades for the CHL? They need to leave 30.06 alone and allow private property owners to prohibit open carry if they so desire. It's the only way to preserve what we have now without going back nearly 150 years and fixing what was done then.
Perhaps you haven't caught up on all the different conversations here regard HB700 (open carry). HB700 will be substituted in committe and will NOT touch 30.06. Instead it will create a new section, 30.07, to use for prohibiting OC.
Good. I hope it requires another great big sign, that no one will figure out how to get right, though you'd probably get verbal (ok ORAL... :roll: ) notice pretty quick.

Re: HB 700 (open carry)

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:20 pm
by JKTex
RottenApple wrote:
JKTex wrote:Unless I'm missing a thread somewhere, I'm really surprised these are getting more attention here. I see more threads on what's going on in other states or even in DC than Texas.

Both Open Carry bills, if I'm reading the current versions, are no better than the last time and will waste the time of those that need to ensure they fail.

When will they get it, that we do NOT want to destroy all the work done over nearly 2 decades for the CHL? They need to leave 30.06 alone and allow private property owners to prohibit open carry if they so desire. It's the only way to preserve what we have now without going back nearly 150 years and fixing what was done then.
Perhaps you haven't caught up on all the different conversations here regard HB700 (open carry). HB700 will be substituted in committe and will NOT touch 30.06. Instead it will create a new section, 30.07, to use for prohibiting OC.
You're right, and thanks for that!! I've searched and only found a couple that aren't the ones I was hoping to find. I'm surprised they aren't stickied as I think bills were last time. Then again, there are so many sub-forums I don't visit much. I'm getting old and confuse easily. :smilelol5:

Re: HB 700 (open carry)

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:24 pm
by JKTex
ScottDLS wrote:
RottenApple wrote:
JKTex wrote:Unless I'm missing a thread somewhere, I'm really surprised these are getting more attention here. I see more threads on what's going on in other states or even in DC than Texas.

Both Open Carry bills, if I'm reading the current versions, are no better than the last time and will waste the time of those that need to ensure they fail.

When will they get it, that we do NOT want to destroy all the work done over nearly 2 decades for the CHL? They need to leave 30.06 alone and allow private property owners to prohibit open carry if they so desire. It's the only way to preserve what we have now without going back nearly 150 years and fixing what was done then.
Perhaps you haven't caught up on all the different conversations here regard HB700 (open carry). HB700 will be substituted in committe and will NOT touch 30.06. Instead it will create a new section, 30.07, to use for prohibiting OC.
Good. I hope it requires another great big sign, that no one will figure out how to get right, though you'd probably get verbal (ok ORAL... :roll: ) notice pretty quick.
I don't know about that. I think even Charles brought up last time that the burden of dual signs would not be supported but I think it would be obvious that it would get a lot of push-back....and rightfully so. There's a fine line of making it happen the right way and causing a lot of damage.

Re: HB 700 (open carry)

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:43 pm
by JKTex
RottenApple wrote:
JKTex wrote:Unless I'm missing a thread somewhere, I'm really surprised these are getting more attention here. I see more threads on what's going on in other states or even in DC than Texas.

Both Open Carry bills, if I'm reading the current versions, are no better than the last time and will waste the time of those that need to ensure they fail.

When will they get it, that we do NOT want to destroy all the work done over nearly 2 decades for the CHL? They need to leave 30.06 alone and allow private property owners to prohibit open carry if they so desire. It's the only way to preserve what we have now without going back nearly 150 years and fixing what was done then.
Perhaps you haven't caught up on all the different conversations here regard HB700 (open carry). HB700 will be substituted in committe and will NOT touch 30.06. Instead it will create a new section, 30.07, to use for prohibiting OC.
BTW, thanks. Another search effort and I found them. The Legislative sub-forum being at the bottom always gets me. :txflag:

Re: HB 700 (open carry)

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:06 pm
by RottenApple
JKTex wrote:I don't know about that. I think even Charles brought up last time that the burden of dual signs would not be supported but I think it would be obvious that it would get a lot of push-back....and rightfully so. There's a fine line of making it happen the right way and causing a lot of damage.
Not only that, but I think that if we require a "BUS" for businesses to prohibit OC, those that do would also likely go ahead and put up a 30.06 as well. TBH, I'd rather see gun busters prohibit OC, and leave 30.06 requirements for CC. Then, after a few years of no "blood in the streets", we can work on a BUS for OC. Basically the same process used to get CC passed and then where it is today. It'll be unlikely to see many businesses putting up 30.06 signs this way.

But I guess we'll have to wait till the substitute to see how they are working it.

Re: HB 700 (open carry)

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:58 pm
by pcgizzmo
nightmare69 wrote:The federal AWB will be voted on by the Senate Committee this Tuesday. I have a feeling its going to fail.
Does this mean we will finally see ammo and gun supply pick up?

Re: HB 700 (open carry)

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 3:48 pm
by nightmare69
pcgizzmo wrote:
nightmare69 wrote:The federal AWB will be voted on by the Senate Committee this Tuesday. I have a feeling its going to fail.
Does this mean we will finally see ammo and gun supply pick up?

They did not vote on it today cause Sen. Feinstein was not there. They are supposed to start on the AWB this Thursday now.

Re: HB 700 (open carry)

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 3:52 pm
by AEA
You are posting AWB FEDERAL info in a Texas State Legislature HB700 bill thread? :roll:

Re: HB 700 (open carry)

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:23 pm
by Keith B
Stay on topic of HB 700