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Dallas police officer hits man with weapon during fight

Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 8:01 am
by JJVP
A 32-year-old man is in Dallas County jail after a Sunday morning fight with a Dallas police officer that left both men banged up, police said.

Anthony Maurice Heflin, 32, was smacked in the face with “a duty weapon” during the fight, according to a police report. He shows visible bruising in his mugshot photo. The officer received treatment at Baylor University Medical Center at Dallas.
The officer also later filed a police report for a missing city-issued ammunition magazine with 15 bullets inside.
Hmm. Lucky it only had bullets inside rather than live ammunition. :smilelol5:

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Re: Dallas police officer hits man with weapon during fight

Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 8:15 am
by The Annoyed Man
Why/How did this degenerate into a situation where his drawn gun was used as a club instead of a gun, and the perp didn't get shot?

Upon reading the article, it seems clear that the officer let the perp get inside his space before reacting. The BG "lunged" at him, but if the LEO had maintained a safe distance, this wouldn't have happened.

Easy to armchair quarterback, but all the same I'm betting that the officer is having exactly the same thoughts this morning.

Re: Dallas police officer hits man with weapon during fight

Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 10:09 am
by texanjoker
The Annoyed Man wrote:Why/How did this degenerate into a situation where his drawn gun was used as a club instead of a gun, and the perp didn't get shot?

Upon reading the article, it seems clear that the officer let the perp get inside his space before reacting. The BG "lunged" at him, but if the LEO had maintained a safe distance, this wouldn't have happened.

Easy to armchair quarterback, but all the same I'm betting that the officer is having exactly the same thoughts this morning.
I don't see anything to quarterback, just another day on the streets and thankfully an officer that was able to win the fight. I am surprised it even made the news as this happens and rarely does. This is a typical call where an officer is probably the 1st to arrive and encountered the suspect without back up. He is probably ordering the guy to prone out at gun point as the call indicates the guy was allegedly on the way to kill the victim. He would then either hold him at gun point for cover or move in and handcuff the guy while alone. When you move in you are in the suspects personal space. It is ideal to wait for back up, but depending where you are and the back up response time you often have to do it by yourself.

On the streets suspects do not always comply when you point a gun at them and when they go sideways you cannot just shoot them w/o further justification. I still recall the first time I was charged by a guy who I had at gun point. I also hit him with my glock as he head butted me at full speed and I didn't have time to holster and go for my baton. If you have ever seen any of the tapes, you can see how fast a person can close 21 or 30 feet.

Re: Dallas police officer hits man with weapon during fight

Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 2:10 pm
by surprise_i'm_armed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9igSoJHEdUo

The above link is to a 3 minute, 6 second video about the problems that a LEO
can encounter with a knife-wielding bad guy. Food for thought about how hard
it would be to defend against a sudden knife attack, even if you had a pistol.

SIA

Re: Dallas police officer hits man with weapon during fight

Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 2:21 pm
by Purplehood
The Annoyed Man wrote:Why/How did this degenerate into a situation where his drawn gun was used as a club instead of a gun, and the perp didn't get shot?

Upon reading the article, it seems clear that the officer let the perp get inside his space before reacting. The BG "lunged" at him, but if the LEO had maintained a safe distance, this wouldn't have happened.

Easy to armchair quarterback, but all the same I'm betting that the officer is having exactly the same thoughts this morning.
Agreed.

IMHO it is virtually impossible to always be ready for an attack from a determined attacker that knows you are armed and is capable of not telegraphing his/her bad intentions. I don't know the entire scenario of what happened, but unless the LEO was already on a war-footing it would probably be quite the simple matter to get into his immediate space in an immediate-manner.