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The National Security Agency has obtained direct access to the systems of Google, Facebook, Apple and other US internet giants, according to a top secret document obtained by the Guardian.

The NSA access is part of a previously undisclosed program called PRISM, which allows officials to collect material including search history, the content of emails, file transfers and live chats, the document says.

When the FAA was first enacted, defenders of the statute argued that a significant check on abuse would be the NSA's inability to obtain electronic communications without the consent of the telecom and internet companies that control the data. But the PRISM program renders that consent unnecessary, as it allows the agency to directly and unilaterally seize the communications off the companies' servers.

mamabearCali wrote:I am angry, very very angry with the gov't.

Not the kind of angry that you smash your favorite vase on the wall and scream at your husband (not that I think that is acceptable behavior at all). It is more like I found my child in a most grievous deliberate, dangerous disobedience that puts us all in terrible danger. It is a quiet purposeful anger, they type of anger where I don't just swat the child, but I consider the punishment that is to be given. This gov't has deliberately and flagrantly defied the limits that we the people put on it. People need to start going to jail for these things.

NSA, since I know you read these things. "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized." This is the supreme law of the United States and you are violating it in a most flagrant and grievous manner.

The Annoyed Man wrote:

mamabearCali wrote:I am angry, very very angry with the gov't.

Not the kind of angry that you smash your favorite vase on the wall and scream at your husband (not that I think that is acceptable behavior at all). It is more like I found my child in a most grievous deliberate, dangerous disobedience that puts us all in terrible danger. It is a quiet purposeful anger, they type of anger where I don't just swat the child, but I consider the punishment that is to be given. This gov't has deliberately and flagrantly defied the limits that we the people put on it. People need to start going to jail for these things.

NSA, since I know you read these things. "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized." This is the supreme law of the United States and you are violating it in a most flagrant and grievous manner.

I think in another post I called you "my sister from another mister," and I agree with everything you've said here (NSA, I hope you're listening and have a copy of the Constitution nearby), but consider this: This action comes from the same government that fulfilled an IRS search warrant against an insurance company employee, and while they were taking HIS computer record, they also filched the healthcare records of 60,000 people who were not named in the warrant, just because they could, and on the principle that its easier to apologize than it is to get permission. To date, there have been no apologies to any of those 60,000 people, and the IRS still has those illegally gotten records.

And this is in addition to the other IRS scandal that is in the press; and the AP spying scandal; and the Benghazi "abandon your warfighters on the battlefield" scandal, and Eric Holder's gun-running scheme, and the refusal to enforce federal immigration law.....which is an illegal abdication of responsibility, and ......and .....and ..... etc., etc., ad nauseum.

They do this because they have no shame, and absolutely no moral backbone. None. You and I both know WHO is Large and In Charge, and I've read the last chapters of the Owner's Manual. We win. But the road between then and now is perilous and it is going to continually get worse, not better. So I pray that you and your hubby are girding yourselves against what is to come. God bless you sister for your commitment to this cause.

suthdj wrote:I won't blame this on Obummer as Bush started this with the Patriot act.

wheelgun1958 wrote:

suthdj wrote:I won't blame this on Obummer as Bush started this with the Patriot act.

Re-authorized by MaObama. He didn't have to. The 'blame' is squarely on his shoulders.

Alexander Hamilton wrote:"If the federal government should overpass the just bounds of its authority and make a tyrannical use of its powers, the people, whose creature it is, must appeal to the standard they have formed, and take such measures to redress the injury done to the Constitution as the exigency may suggest and prudence justify."

--Federalist No. 33, 1788

The Annoyed Man wrote:

Alexander Hamilton wrote:"If the federal government should overpass the just bounds of its authority and make a tyrannical use of its powers, the people, whose creature it is, must appeal to the standard they have formed, and take such measures to redress the injury done to the Constitution as the exigency may suggest and prudence justify."

--Federalist No. 33, 1788