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Homeland Insecurity: The White House assures that tracking our every phone call and keystroke is to stop terrorists, and yet it won't snoop in mosques, where the terrorists are.

That's right, the government's sweeping surveillance of our most private communications excludes the jihad factories where homegrown terrorists are radicalized.

Since October 2011, mosques have been off-limits to FBI agents. No more surveillance or undercover string operations without high-level approval from a special oversight body at the Justice Department dubbed the Sensitive Operations Review Committee.

I do wish the suits brought by the ACLU and CAIR against the FBI had been litigated instead of dismissed. The article posted states that,

Before mosques were excluded from the otherwise wide domestic spy net the administration has cast, the FBI launched dozens of successful sting operations against homegrown jihadists — inside mosques — and disrupted dozens of plots against the homeland.

even though the one instance of such surveillance that has come to light, the Orange County Mosque effort, the plaintiffs state that no viable intelligence was gathered, and without the suit going forward we'll never know.
I want the FBI to be able to pursue threat leads wherever they are found, not be hamstrung by a committee. Knowing that COINTELPRO is part of the J.Edgar legacy of the Bureau though, means that we have to be vigilant as well. Perhaps the judge who dismissed the suit was right in his characterization, that he felt as though he was charting a course between the Hydra and the Whirlpool.

Dadtodabone wrote:I do wish the suits brought by the ACLU and CAIR against the FBI had been litigated instead of dismissed. The article posted states that,

Before mosques were excluded from the otherwise wide domestic spy net the administration has cast, the FBI launched dozens of successful sting operations against homegrown jihadists — inside mosques — and disrupted dozens of plots against the homeland.

even though the one instance of such surveillance that has come to light, the Orange County Mosque effort, the plaintiffs state that no viable intelligence was gathered, and without the suit going forward we'll never know.
I want the FBI to be able to pursue threat leads wherever they are found, not be hamstrung by a committee. Knowing that COINTELPRO is part of the J.Edgar legacy of the Bureau though, means that we have to be vigilant as well. Perhaps the judge who dismissed the suit was right in his characterization, that he felt as though he was charting a course between the Hydra and the Whirlpool.

My post wasn't intended to advocate spying on Mosques, just to point out that Muslims are getting special treatment and protections, while the rest of us are being spied on. Which suggests that "terrorism" isn't the real focus for the Feds. I want the government to stop spying on EVERYBODY in fishing expeditions, and obey the law --the Constitutional limits-- and investigate within the boundaries specified by the 4th amendment --probable cause.

VMI77 wrote:

Dadtodabone wrote:I do wish the suits brought by the ACLU and CAIR against the FBI had been litigated instead of dismissed. The article posted states that,

Before mosques were excluded from the otherwise wide domestic spy net the administration has cast, the FBI launched dozens of successful sting operations against homegrown jihadists — inside mosques — and disrupted dozens of plots against the homeland.

even though the one instance of such surveillance that has come to light, the Orange County Mosque effort, the plaintiffs state that no viable intelligence was gathered, and without the suit going forward we'll never know.
I want the FBI to be able to pursue threat leads wherever they are found, not be hamstrung by a committee. Knowing that COINTELPRO is part of the J.Edgar legacy of the Bureau though, means that we have to be vigilant as well. Perhaps the judge who dismissed the suit was right in his characterization, that he felt as though he was charting a course between the Hydra and the Whirlpool.

My post wasn't intended to advocate spying on Mosques, just to point out that Muslims are getting special treatment and protections, while the rest of us are being spied on. Which suggests that "terrorism" isn't the real focus for the Feds. I want the government to stop spying on EVERYBODY in fishing expeditions, and obey the law --the Constitutional limits-- and investigate within the boundaries specified by the 4th amendment --probable cause.

VMI77 wrote:

Dadtodabone wrote:I do wish the suits brought by the ACLU and CAIR against the FBI had been litigated instead of dismissed. The article posted states that,

Before mosques were excluded from the otherwise wide domestic spy net the administration has cast, the FBI launched dozens of successful sting operations against homegrown jihadists — inside mosques — and disrupted dozens of plots against the homeland.

even though the one instance of such surveillance that has come to light, the Orange County Mosque effort, the plaintiffs state that no viable intelligence was gathered, and without the suit going forward we'll never know.
I want the FBI to be able to pursue threat leads wherever they are found, not be hamstrung by a committee. Knowing that COINTELPRO is part of the J.Edgar legacy of the Bureau though, means that we have to be vigilant as well. Perhaps the judge who dismissed the suit was right in his characterization, that he felt as though he was charting a course between the Hydra and the Whirlpool.

My post wasn't intended to advocate spying on Mosques, just to point out that Muslims are getting special treatment and protections, while the rest of us are being spied on. Which suggests that "terrorism" isn't the real focus for the Feds. I want the government to stop spying on EVERYBODY in fishing expeditions, and obey the law --the Constitutional limits-- and investigate within the boundaries specified by the 4th amendment --probable cause.

Understood. I whole heartedly share and support your position on the Feds domestic intelligence gathering.

gthaustex wrote:

VMI77 wrote:

Dadtodabone wrote:I do wish the suits brought by the ACLU and CAIR against the FBI had been litigated instead of dismissed. The article posted states that,

Before mosques were excluded from the otherwise wide domestic spy net the administration has cast, the FBI launched dozens of successful sting operations against homegrown jihadists — inside mosques — and disrupted dozens of plots against the homeland.

even though the one instance of such surveillance that has come to light, the Orange County Mosque effort, the plaintiffs state that no viable intelligence was gathered, and without the suit going forward we'll never know.
I want the FBI to be able to pursue threat leads wherever they are found, not be hamstrung by a committee. Knowing that COINTELPRO is part of the J.Edgar legacy of the Bureau though, means that we have to be vigilant as well. Perhaps the judge who dismissed the suit was right in his characterization, that he felt as though he was charting a course between the Hydra and the Whirlpool.

My post wasn't intended to advocate spying on Mosques, just to point out that Muslims are getting special treatment and protections, while the rest of us are being spied on. Which suggests that "terrorism" isn't the real focus for the Feds. I want the government to stop spying on EVERYBODY in fishing expeditions, and obey the law --the Constitutional limits-- and investigate within the boundaries specified by the 4th amendment --probable cause.

100% But my feelings about the GOP/Tea Party reaction range from -10 to -a kabillion. Ted Cruz's website comments are not very encouraging. There just doesn't seem to be anyone left who really supports the 4th amendment.