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CDC study ordered by Obama contradicts Obama

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:00 pm
by A-R
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Obama had announced at the beginning of the year his push for three major gun control initiatives — universal background checks, a ban on “assault weapons,” and a ban on “high-capacity” magazines — to prevent future mass shootings, no doubt hoping that the CDC study would oblige him by providing evidence that additional gun control measures were justified to reduce gun violence. On the contrary, that study refuted nearly all the standard anti-gun narrative and instead supported many of the positions taken by gun ownership supporters.

For example, the majority of gun-related deaths between 2000 and 2010 were due to suicide and not criminal violence:

Between the years 2000-2010 firearm-related suicides significantly outnumbered homicides for all age groups, annually accounting for 61 percent of the more than 335,600 people who died from firearms related violence in the United States.

In addition, defensive use of guns “is a common occurrence,” according to the study:

Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million per year, in the context of about 300,000 violent crimes involving firearms in 2008.

Accidental deaths due to firearms has continued to fall as well, with “the number of unintentional deaths due to firearm-related incidents account[ing] for less than 1 percent of all unintentional fatalities in 2010.”

Furthermore, the key finding the president was no doubt seeking — that more laws would result in less crime — was missing. The study said that “interventions,” such as background checks and restrictions on firearms and increased penalties for illegal gun use, showed “mixed” results, while “turn-in” programs “are ineffective” in reducing crime. The study noted that most criminals obtained their guns in the underground economy — from friends, family members, or gang members — well outside any influence from gun controls on legitimate gun owners.

Also, the report noted that mass shootings such as the one in Newtown, Connecticut, have declined and “account for a very small fraction of all firearm-related deaths.”

Re: CDC study ordered by Obama contradicts Obama

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 6:19 pm
by Skiprr
Hm...

President Obama appointed the current director of the CDC, Dr. Thomas Frieden, in May 2009. At the time, Frieden was commissioner of the New York City Health Department.

Hold your breath to see if there's a new CDC director appointed in the coming months...

Re: CDC study ordered by Obama contradicts Obama

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 6:49 pm
by C-dub
I wonder how long any of them will be employed.

Re: CDC study ordered by Obama contradicts Obama

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 7:02 pm
by sjfcontrol
C-dub wrote:I wonder how long any of them will be employed.
1288 days, 4 hours, 57 minutes, and 35 seconds

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Re: CDC study ordered by Obama contradicts Obama

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 7:21 pm
by JJVP
Already discussed here viewtopic.php?f=83&t=67208" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: CDC study ordered by Obama contradicts Obama

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 10:50 pm
by Skiprr
JJVP wrote:Already discussed here viewtopic.php?f=83&t=67208" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
But not well discussed. Only two responses.

We'll leave this one.

Re: CDC study ordered by Obama contradicts Obama

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 7:08 am
by nightmare69
We will see if this sees the light of day when Obama pushes UBC again

Re: CDC study ordered by Obama contradicts Obama

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 7:15 am
by chasfm11
For me, the most telling part of the study analysis was this:
There was one startling conclusion which, taken at face value, seemed to give the president what he was looking for. The study reported that “the U.S. rate of firearm-related homicide is higher than that of any other industrialized country: 19.5 times higher than the rates in other high-income countries.” However, Zara Matheson of the Martin Prosperity Institute, produced a map that compared gun violence rates in the major metropolitan areas of the country to rates of foreign countries. As Graham Noble of Guardian Express noted, “If one were to exclude figures for Illinois, California, New Jersey and Washington, DC, the homicide rate in the United States would be in line with any other country.” These areas, of course, are noted for the most restrictive gun laws in the country, thus negating any opportunity for the president to celebrate the report’s findings.
The Pro 2A forces have never been able to capitalize on the fact that all of the major areas for gun violence have been under Democratic rule for a very long time. One could argue that CA and NJ recently had or have a Republican governors but all of the cities involved have been the Democratic clutches for decades. Like everything else in the Liberal agenda, there is no accountability.

Shelia Jackson Lee was on TV yesterday railing about how the GOP was causing starving kids because of the uncoupling of food stamps from the farm bill. A parallel news story was that an Indiana school district lost $300,000 because the kids would not eat MOOshell's school lunch food and that the kids were ending up hungry in the afternoon. Low information will not connect those dots any better than they have the high crime Democrat cities being the major centers for gun homicides.