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What is this country coming to when we can not even protect ourselves and loved ones in our own home without being at risk to lose everything!

I'm always leery of discovering information that was selectively edited from the story.
Sure sound like he's only guilty of living in Maryland.

The cops say Green was let into the house and he didn't "Kick" the door. The implication is that Matt Pinkerton was upset that his wife had some sort of affair with Green when he was posted in Korea. Green was a friend of the wife's brother and was in close contact with the family during Pinkerton's absence. He had even lived in that house and was allowed to use the basement to "Party" with friends. Pinkerton reported said he suspected his wife of having an affair while he was gone. He came back to the states to find Green living with his wife. Yep Green lived in the house until Pinkerton came home and was then asked to leave. 3 witnesses and no one called 911 until well after Green was shot so how much of a disturbance was there? Accounts I have read said Pinkerton told cops he got his gun when Green knocked on the door and not in response to him trying to break in.Funny how everyone immediately believes everything the attorney for the defense says. Pinkerton shot and killed an intruder who just happened to also be having an affair with the defendant's wife? And there is no possible conclusion other than self defense? I'm not sure what the truth is but we definitely don't have all the facts in these posts that are popping up all over the place on this shooting.

People's Republic of Maryland.

Having had the misfortune of living there at one time in my life, 'nuff said.

The situation will demand the sequence of the actions. I'd say it is important to stay as calm as possible should one encounter a "bad" situation. Awareness training can help.

EEllis wrote:Funny how everyone immediately believes everything the attorney for the defense says.

Not everyone. Look at post #2.

I'd like to see the arrest warrant affidavit. I'm sure it reads a lot different then this story.

RoyGBiv wrote:

EEllis wrote:Funny how everyone immediately believes everything the attorney for the defense says.

Not everyone. Look at post #2.

True, my bad. This story has been going around the net and it just strikes me as funny how much gets left out and how outraged people are without knowing more complete info. And of course once more info is available, well they have their minds made up and refuse to look again at the event.

EEllis wrote:

RoyGBiv wrote:

EEllis wrote:Funny how everyone immediately believes everything the attorney for the defense says.

Not everyone. Look at post #2.

True, my bad. This story has been going around the net and it just strikes me as funny how much gets left out and how outraged people are without knowing more complete info. And of course once more info is available, well they have their minds made up and refuse to look again at the event.

Yup - people love to jump on the ANTI LEO bandwagon based on biased articles. People forget that attorneys lie all the time for the benefit of their client. Gotta love it.

texanjoker wrote:

EEllis wrote:

RoyGBiv wrote:

EEllis wrote:Funny how everyone immediately believes everything the attorney for the defense says.

Not everyone. Look at post #2.

True, my bad. This story has been going around the net and it just strikes me as funny how much gets left out and how outraged people are without knowing more complete info. And of course once more info is available, well they have their minds made up and refuse to look again at the event.

People forget that attorneys lie all the time for the benefit of their client. Gotta love it.

It's rather hard for an attorney to lie about something when he/she wasn't involved in the incident. Contrast that with COPS and prosecutors lying and hiding evidence to get convictions, even when the defendant is innocent. Contrast that with HPD officers and HPD lab employees lying under oath about the results of forensic testing on evidence when no testing was ever performed. It happened so often that the HPD lab was shut down twice. Contrast that with former Harris County District Attorney Chuck Rosenthal who saw "absolutely no need to retest" evidence even in death penalty convictions, simply because HPD and/or his prosecutors got caught. Just let them die.

Chas.

texanjoker wrote:

EEllis wrote:

RoyGBiv wrote:

EEllis wrote:Funny how everyone immediately believes everything the attorney for the defense says.

Not everyone. Look at post #2.

True, my bad. This story has been going around the net and it just strikes me as funny how much gets left out and how outraged people are without knowing more complete info. And of course once more info is available, well they have their minds made up and refuse to look again at the event.

Yup - people love to jump on the ANTI LEO bandwagon based on biased articles. People forget that attorneys lie all the time for the benefit of their client. Gotta love it.

Funny how cops love to lie even when there is video evidence that shows without a doubt the cop is lying and then their fellow cops refuse to acknowledge their fellow cops were in the wrong.

texanjoker wrote:

EEllis wrote:

RoyGBiv wrote:

EEllis wrote:Funny how everyone immediately believes everything the attorney for the defense says.

Not everyone. Look at post #2.

True, my bad. This story has been going around the net and it just strikes me as funny how much gets left out and how outraged people are without knowing more complete info. And of course once more info is available, well they have their minds made up and refuse to look again at the event.

Yup - people love to jump on the ANTI LEO bandwagon based on biased articles. People forget that attorneys lie all the time for the benefit of their client. Gotta love it.

I was going to respond but Charles has it covered.

Charles L. Cotton wrote:

texanjoker wrote:

EEllis wrote:

RoyGBiv wrote:

EEllis wrote:Funny how everyone immediately believes everything the attorney for the defense says.

Not everyone. Look at post #2.

True, my bad. This story has been going around the net and it just strikes me as funny how much gets left out and how outraged people are without knowing more complete info. And of course once more info is available, well they have their minds made up and refuse to look again at the event.

People forget that attorneys lie all the time for the benefit of their client. Gotta love it.

It's rather hard for an attorney to lie about something when he/she wasn't involved in the incident. Contrast that with COPS and prosecutors lying and hiding evidence to get convictions, even when the defendant is innocent. Contrast that with HPD officers and HPD lab employees lying under oath about the results of forensic testing on evidence when no testing was ever performed. It happened so often that the HPD lab was shut down twice. Contrast that with former Harris County District Attorney Chuck Rosenthal who saw "absolutely no need to retest" evidence even in death penalty convictions, simply because HPD and/or his prosecutors got caught. Just let them die.

Chas.

You know what I am talking about. A limited article based on the words of an attorney and bam the anti leo bandwagon is set off. Attorneys spin the truth all the time. Heck the DA your are talking about above is also an attorney. Those guys you mention above need to be prosecuted. Sure most are good just like most leos are good, however I don't see the anti attorney band wagon set off every time we read a case of alleged unethical behavior.

texanjoker wrote:

Charles L. Cotton wrote:

texanjoker wrote:

EEllis wrote:

RoyGBiv wrote:

EEllis wrote:Funny how everyone immediately believes everything the attorney for the defense says.

Not everyone. Look at post #2.

True, my bad. This story has been going around the net and it just strikes me as funny how much gets left out and how outraged people are without knowing more complete info. And of course once more info is available, well they have their minds made up and refuse to look again at the event.

People forget that attorneys lie all the time for the benefit of their client. Gotta love it.

It's rather hard for an attorney to lie about something when he/she wasn't involved in the incident. Contrast that with COPS and prosecutors lying and hiding evidence to get convictions, even when the defendant is innocent. Contrast that with HPD officers and HPD lab employees lying under oath about the results of forensic testing on evidence when no testing was ever performed. It happened so often that the HPD lab was shut down twice. Contrast that with former Harris County District Attorney Chuck Rosenthal who saw "absolutely no need to retest" evidence even in death penalty convictions, simply because HPD and/or his prosecutors got caught. Just let them die.

Sure most are good just like most leos are good, however I don't see the anti attorney band wagon set off every time we read a case of alleged unethical behavior.

Come on now, everyone loves to take shots at attorneys. We get blamed for everything and everyone loves to hate us; right up to the point they need us to save their bacon, or get their shooting range open, or pass/block legislation. COPS despise criminal defense attorneys, until a video pops up showing them beating the snot out of a handcuffed suspect or shooting a guy who never took a step toward them (in contrast to their official statement). Then they want the best darn attorney their union can afford.

Chas.

Attorneys, cops, used car salesmen and insurance agents, we are all easy targets. The problem is, there are plenty that do all they can to make sure we all are tainted with a negative impression. It's incumbent upon each of us to make sure we do all we can to counter the negative image and not add fuel to the fire.