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SAPD Officer Arrested

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 2:48 pm
by gigag04
I'll beat everyone to the punch here...

http://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog/2013 ... -Squad-Car" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

If this is true, I'll be the first, not call for his job, but his head.

Re: SAPD Officer Arrested

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 2:51 pm
by The Annoyed Man
gigag04 wrote:I'll beat everyone to the punch here...

http://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog/2013 ... -Squad-Car" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

If this is true, I'll be the first, not call for his job, but his head.
I agree. This is intolerable. . . . if it is true. He gets his day in court, just like anyone else.

Re: SAPD Officer Arrested

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 3:04 pm
by mojo84
gigag04 wrote:I'll beat everyone to the punch here...

http://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog/2013 ... -Squad-Car" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

If this is true, I'll be the first, not call for his job, but his head.

Actually, I beat you to it. Just didn't want to post it in it's own thread as I didn't want folks to think I was just trying to bash cops. It's this guys third accusation of improper sexual conduct. I can't give him the benefit of the doubt. Will have to let the courts do that.

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Post subject: Re: Man pretending to be cop assaults woman on I35 DFWPostPosted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 9:02 pm
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A real cop was arrested today or yesterday in San Antonio for raping a woman he got to the back of his car while he was on duty. Not sure if he cuffed her or not. Chief McManus contacted the FBI to see if they want to investigate it also for federal civil liberties violations.

I definitely see this as an abuse if power even though some won't.

Here's a link to an article.

http://mysanantonio.com/news/local/arti" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... 005742.php

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Re: SAPD Officer Arrested

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 3:21 pm
by puma guy
According to New Daily News another incident had occurred just a few day prior but victim who reported it decided to not cooperate any further. He was suspended in September for inappropriate relationship with an 18 year old. Got 3 days suspension for that?
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa ... -1.1527459

Re: SAPD Officer Arrested

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 3:39 pm
by WildBill
Neal was suspended for three days in September for dating an 18-year-old member of the San Antonio Police Explorers, a program for young people interested in a career in law enforcement, the Express-News reported.

The accusations of sexual misconduct are the third against Neal, the police chief told the Express-News.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa ... z2lgxQeRI9" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Maybe SAPD Internal Affairs needs some more resources to conduct their investigations.

Re: SAPD Officer Arrested

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 4:53 pm
by Jaguar
This is a sad situation. I wish nothing but the best for the young lady.

We must remember there are those drawn to power for nefarious reasons just as there are those whose goals are for the greater good. Those who have bad intent need to be weeded out quickly and publicly for the benefit of the public and all public servant.

Re: SAPD Officer Arrested

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 4:54 pm
by texanjoker
You are late. This was posted and took over another thread..... SAPD was quick to act. I would like to see the arrest affidavit :thumbs2:

They must also believe they have a solid case due to his being suspended without pay.

Re: SAPD Officer Arrested

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 5:48 am
by rbwhatever1
I'm with you Mojo. It appears one needs to walk on eggshells when posting a criminal act. Much safer in the Hunting Forum!
This calculating criminal miscreant needs to be gone forever. (After the Justice System approves of course)

Be careful out there ladies.

Re: SAPD Officer Arrested

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 6:32 am
by jmra
I wonder if someone threatened the first woman and that's the reason she decided to stop cooperating with police.

Re: SAPD Officer Arrested

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 8:34 am
by SQLGeek
Nevermind...not going there.

Re: SAPD Officer Arrested

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 8:37 am
by RPBrown
I do not want anyone to think I am bashing cops here as that is not my intent (son in law is a cop). But when my kids were young, they were always told if they needed help to look for a police officer. With all of the things that have been going on, at least here in the DFW area, I would almost hesitate to make that same statement to my grandchildren. Not only do we have officers doing illegal things such as mentioned here, but now we are having several reports of people impersonating police officers. I know that the greater majority of the officers are honest, law abiding people, and I have the utmost respect for them. However, how are we or the kids especially, supposed to know which ones to trust?

Re: SAPD Officer Arrested

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:00 am
by Redneck_Buddha
jmra wrote:I wonder if someone threatened the first woman and that's the reason she decided to stop cooperating with police.
That would be my forgone conclusion.

Re: SAPD Officer Arrested

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:08 am
by gigag04
RPBrown wrote:I do not want anyone to think I am bashing cops here as that is not my intent (son in law is a cop). But when my kids were young, they were always told if they needed help to look for a police officer. With all of the things that have been going on, at least here in the DFW area, I would almost hesitate to make that same statement to my grandchildren. Not only do we have officers doing illegal things such as mentioned here, but now we are having several reports of people impersonating police officers. I know that the greater majority of the officers are honest, law abiding people, and I have the utmost respect for them. However, how are we or the kids especially, supposed to know which ones to trust?
I actually think things are better for the LE world than it was in previous years as far as ethical behavior and professionalism. The digital age has been a double-edged sword in regards to public opinion of LEOs. Let me explain:

With social media, web based news sites, and smart phones, negative encounters (and even skewed and over hyped normal encounters) are quickly sensationalized and spread rapidly, and easily. One can simply search from Google and find great numbers of examples of morons with a badge that tarnish its credibility. It would be easy to paint a bleak picture and make it easy to resent and be suspicious of LEOs everywhere.

On the flip side, the same ones and zeroes that bring you the internet, also bring us in-car video (except HPD's patrol units.....), body mics, pocket recorders, body video cams, taser-cams, in car GPS locators (cut's down on loafing off...sort of), and in car navigation to reduce response times. Technology has provided a host of less lethal force options as well as online continuing-ed training and webinars to up training and professionalism. The requirements for being an LEO are tougher now than they were 20 years ago. The pay is better, and the training is more extensive. The digital age has allowed for more thorough background checks to be performed, and also has made it easier to contact a wider variety of references for police applicants. The passing requirements of police academies are going up as is the number of required hours. I think these factors all combine to improve the hiring pool and allow agencies to field a more professional force which can be better monitored with all the new techno-gadgets.

I think the "thin blue line" is less tolerant of "dirty cops" than it has ever been before.

I'm sure in the pendulum of LEO opinion, some are too quick to condemn and some are too quick to condone certain behaviors. This is likely because of the lens with which we study the incidents...Call it one's worldview or paradigm. But, I think between the IA units, media attention given to incidents, publicly elected judges and DAs, and evidence captured on camera/mic, WE, as a citizen body, get things more right than we do wrong when it comes to handling the bad apples with a badge.

Re: SAPD Officer Arrested

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:38 am
by baldeagle
gigag04 wrote:I think the "thin blue line" is less tolerant of "dirty cops" than it has ever been before.

I'm sure in the pendulum of LEO opinion, some are too quick to condemn and some are too quick to condone certain behaviors. This is likely because of the lens with which we study the incidents...Call it one's worldview or paradigm. But, I think between the IA units, media attention given to incidents, publicly elected judges and DAs, and evidence captured on camera/mic, WE, as a citizen body, get things more right than we do wrong when it comes to handling the bad apples with a badge.
I totally agree with this.

Re: SAPD Officer Arrested

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 10:32 am
by VMI77
The problem with police conduct now starts at the top and works it's way down. It's refreshing to see a department respond like SAPD did in this case. Police misconduct can only be dealt with when command and prosecutors and politicians take appropriate action. When command is rotten, rotten officers are going to thrive. It's true for any business too....when management is bad the organization is generally bad.