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Written by three from San Marcos. I didn't know that TSU at San Marcos had an "Advanced Law Enforcement Rapid Response Training Center" but I do now.

The federal government defines an active shooter as “an individual actively engaged in killing or attempting to kill people in a confined and populated area, typically through the use of firearms.”[3] ... The event had to involve one or more persons engaged in killing or attempting to kill multiple people in an area occupied by multiple unrelated individuals—at least one of the victims must be unrelated to the shooter.

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GRTWT, but some notes:

- 104 events (includes Ft Hood)
- 2/3s happened at schools or businesses.
- Police respond times available for less than half of events; for those, median police response time was 3 minutes
- Median response time was only 2 minutes for solo police officers
- Of the five events with most casualties, police were on the scene in about 3 minutes
- In 45% of the events the attacker had no connection to the location
- 49% of the events were over before police arrived on scene
- Of events ended before police arrived, the attacker committed suicide 29 times, left the scene 5 times, was subdued by people on scene 14 times, was shot by people on scene 3 times.
- After police arrived on scene, the attackers committed suicide 15 times, were shot by police 23 times, surrendered to police 5 times, were subdued by police 9 times.
- In 13 cases a single police officer intervened, shooting the attacker in 10 cases, subduing the attacker 2 times; in 1 case the attacker committed suicide.
- Police were shot by the attacker in 8 cases

No mention of how many of the scenes were "No guns" zones

Interesting that they lumped schools and businesses together. I wonder the breakdown between the two.

WildBill wrote:Interesting that they lumped schools and businesses together. I wonder the breakdown between the two.

I lumped them together because they were the two most frequent types of locations and I was summarizing only some of the details. Details are that the link, but schools were 29% and businesses were 40%. Go read the whole article, it is not long and has more details and explanations.

ELB wrote:

WildBill wrote:Interesting that they lumped schools and businesses together. I wonder the breakdown between the two.

I lumped them together because they were the two most frequent types of locations and I was summarizing only some of the details. Details are that the link, but schools were 29% and businesses were 40%. Go read the whole article, it is not long and has more details and explanations.

Thanks! I will. It just seems that I hear more about schools than businesses.

[quote="ELB"]Written by three from San Marcos. I didn't know that TSU at San Marcos had an "Advanced Law Enforcement Rapid Response Training Center" but I do now.[quote]

TX State got a grant after one of the big school shootings and developed the police training for how to respond. They were the ones who developed the current tactic of not waiting for the SWAT team, but getting the first two or four officers to go in right away. I don't agree with everything they teach about how to handle shooters, but they are the currently regarded experts. And they do have a couple of the professors who have done some fairly extensive research into active shooters situations, so it is not necessarily a political answer.

As an aside, you should hear those professors talk about gun control and campus carry. Banning guns is not the answer they prefer.

srothstein wrote:
TX State got a grant after one of the big school shootings and developed the police training for how to respond. ...

Aha, thanks for filling me in.

srothstein wrote:
...As an aside, you should hear those professors talk about gun control and campus carry. Banning guns is not the answer they prefer.

Perhaps some state rep and/or senator should call them to certain committee hearings to advise the legislature next session. After the new speaker is elected.