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At Cabelas there is a set of clean Mosin 91/30 rifles at $169 each.
As I am not an expert on Mosin, is this model a keeper? What I do expect in terms of Accuracy in MOA?

Here is the one I put on hold:


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The Mosin is on my list of guns to buy. Unfortunately, I can't buy any guns until I find a full-time job and Mommachatter gets home from the hospital.

Beiruty wrote:At Cabelas there is a set of clean Mosin 91/30 rifles at $169 each.
As I am an expert on Mosin, is this model a keeper? What I do expect in terms of Accuracy in MOA?

Well, I think ALL Mosins are "keepers," so yes, it's a keeper!

If you can get pictures of the top of the action / receiver ring, it'll tell a bit more about where it was made. As-is, I can tell you the magazine floorplate was made at the Izshevsk factory, but those got switched around a good bit in armories, so it's probably NOT original. In fact, most of the "small parts," to include bolt and bolt-head, were often switched around fairly haphazardly. I've got a couple rifles with parts made in at least three or four factories, from at least two countries!

As to accuracy, that is one thing I can NOT tell you about without inspecting the bore itself, and these old war-horses still sometimes surprise you in either direction. Sometimes you'll see a "sewer bore," so filled with pitting and rust it looks unshootable, but with a little cleaning (and a little shooting), the rifle turns out to be a lead laser. Other times, as I've had happen, a barrel will look good, but keyhole at 50 yards. I'm -guessing- your rifle will be good for steel plate shooting at a couple hundred yards, but in truth, it could be shoot anywhere from sub-MOA accuracy to all over the berm. It depends on how much service the rifle saw, how badly it was maltreated, and whether the arsenal decided it needed refurbishing/counter-boring.

Is there something called Mosin NIB or LNIB?

AndyC wrote:Kind of - you can look for the factory re-arsenaled mark on the receiver, which indicates that the rifle was rebuilt by the factory and parts replaced as necessary to basically make it "good as new" again. The mark looks like a block with a vertical line bisecting it:

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Accuracy - won't know until you shoot it, I guess. Mine did this at 50 yards with iron sights:

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I guess that's about 1" at 50 yards = 2 MOA. I don't consider myself a great rifle shot so it may have been capable of better in more skilled hands. Either way, I hope you get a good shooter

Sweet shooter.

I remember when 91/30s wre $89 or less. In fact, back in 2001 I picked up a "Gunsmith Special" of 3 for $100 hoping to get one really good one with some spare parts. Well, for about $30 in spare parts (couple of barrel bands and a front sight) had three nice rifles to include a 1918 hex receiver. that worked out to about $45 each. These things shoot pretty accurately, but them Russians had to be tough with the recoil. the Finnish Model 1939 rework of the 91s and 91/30s was a much easier shooter.

There is actually a Mosin forum
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I would hold off getting a Mosin and focus getting my SSG 04 completed.

I've been watching those for a while. A couple of months ago they were $129. They go back an forth. A year ago they were $169.

You're too modest Andy.

It's definitely a forced numbers matched refurb. The lack of Cyrillic characters on the bolt and floor plate ahead of the SN indicate a scrub and renumber. Some people get really excited when all the numbers match. They do but those weren't the original numbers matching parts. Definitely buy one now. I paid $80 for my first one five years ago and they have doubled in price.

Big Bronze Rim wrote:It's definitely a forced numbers matched refurb. The lack of Cyrillic characters on the bolt and floor plate ahead of the SN indicate a scrub and renumber. Some people get really excited when all the numbers match. They do but those weren't the original numbers matching parts. Definitely buy one now. I paid $80 for my first one five years ago and they have doubled in price.

The OP's rifle does have the prefix...looks like НБ. But you are probably still right that it is a force matched rifle and is probably done by Molot. They are addicting. Just got my first sniper from Rguns yesterday.

sookandy wrote:

Big Bronze Rim wrote:It's definitely a forced numbers matched refurb. The lack of Cyrillic characters on the bolt and floor plate ahead of the SN indicate a scrub and renumber. Some people get really excited when all the numbers match. They do but those weren't the original numbers matching parts. Definitely buy one now. I paid $80 for my first one five years ago and they have doubled in price.

The OP's rifle does have the prefix...looks like НБ. But you are probably still right that it is a force matched rifle and is probably done by Molot. They are addicting. Just got my first sniper from Rguns yesterday.

You are correct, there is definitely a prefix. That's what I get for trying to make it the text on my phone. Upon closer inspection on an actual computer I can see it.