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Expansion in Mini,Mcro, or, whatever fits in that catagory

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 1:49 pm
by saltydog452
Muzzle veloccity for the 45 in the mini barrel catagory seems to hover around -800FPS. Is anyone aware of any jello expansion tests for JHPs at 800fps?

If the highly touted JHPs don't expand at this reduced velocity, why not carry ball?

Thanks,

salty

Re: Expansion in Mini,Mcro, or, whatever fits in that catago

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 8:10 pm
by Jumping Frog
Speer Gold Dots come in a short-barreled version in .45 that expand at lower velocities.

http://www.speer-ammo.com/ballistics/ammo.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Hornady Critical Defense is also sold as being optimized for short barrels.

Re: Expansion in Mini,Mcro, or, whatever fits in that catago

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 9:11 pm
by CC Italian
BARNES!

Re: Expansion in Mini,Mcro, or, whatever fits in that catago

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 9:29 pm
by CC Italian
The speer's short barrel are great like jumping frog mentioned. I have them for my glock 27 and snub nose smith. I think the Barnes round is the only way to go in .32acp and .380 if you run hps. It doesn't matter the barrel length they expand and penetration is deeper then most other jhp. 9-12 inch penetration in those calibers and they open up to .55-68. Downside is that they can get pricey! Also, I love them for my 10mm. Only hp round that can really take the 10mm hot load and stay together for the most part.

Re: Expansion in Mini,Mcro, or, whatever fits in that catago

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 7:53 am
by mrvmax
I Like the tests this guy does, he covers some tests with short barrel pistols.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAWFWu ... shA/videos

Re: Expansion in Mini,Mcro, or, whatever fits in that catago

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:43 am
by saltydog452
Got it. Thanks all,
salty

Re: Expansion in Mini,Mcro, or, whatever fits in that catago

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 11:55 am
by CC Italian
Just talked to corbon about there .32acp dpx round which has been out about 3 years but little data is available if any of you p32 guys are wondering. .36 increase in expansion with only 7-9 inchs of penetration through 10% ballistic gel and 4 layers of denim. Muzzle velocity is 1050 from 2.5 inch barrel. To give you an example of what that bullet can do with better velocity check this out. http://www.shootingillustrated.com/inde ... in-tac-xp/

Just not enough juice behind that .32 acp to penetrate well enough.