National Guard Armory
Posted: Sun May 20, 2007 7:26 pm
Does the NG Armory fall under Federal law as far as carrying concealed is concerned?
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Posted: Sun May 20, 2007 8:14 pm
I guess YES. 
Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 2:25 am
Depends.
Contact the Post Commander or the Provost Marshall's office.
Contact the Post Commander or the Provost Marshall's office.
Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 3:18 am
National Guard armories belong to the state. They are not federal property.
Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 7:08 am
Remember if you are in the State or National Guard, you fall under TCMJ, Texas Code of Military Justice, when you are performing your duties under state orders (UCMJ for federal). TCMJ requires you to follow orders which may not (probably not) permit you to carry weapons, regardless of your status of CHL. IANAL, but I believe you likely could not be prosecuted under CHL statutes, but could be prosecuted under TCMJ.
TCMJ is Sect 432 of the Gov't Code
TCMJ is Sect 432 of the Gov't Code
Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 7:17 am
I guess NO. 
Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 7:27 am
I do know that Camp Mabry allows CHL carry. I believe KBCraig is correct that armories are state property (although Mabry has a federal reserve center (Navy) on site, fenced and well marked).
Again, IANAL.....
Again, IANAL.....
Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 8:29 am
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 11:07 am
Tell (ask) them at the gate. If it was like Muster Day, they will have you separate the weapon and the ammo and then proceed. I assume you are in the 36th ID by your avatar. If so, this may not apply as you will not be a civilian visitor and may be bound by other statutes and policies as a member of teh Nat Guard (i.e., no entry with weapon).
Again, IANAL, this is my understanding and experience.
Again, IANAL, this is my understanding and experience.
Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 1:24 pm
If you are in the NG or on Active Duty, then check with your BN CSM or BN CDR. They can decide if a personal sidearm is part of your uniform on or off-duty. In any case, they can advise you as to how they want to conduct yourself.
I am not sure now, but in the early 90s the CSMs on NG and Active would be given exceptions to Post Regulations in order to maintain a small QRF or to quietly guard sensitive facilities or personnel. If you ended up on one of these teams, you could carry a pistol and/or drew ammunition for your issued rifle/shotgun.
I think our posts are wide-open to attack by terrorists. For this reason, I would require soldiers with CHL to open-carry when on post and in uniform and concealed otherwise.
I am not sure now, but in the early 90s the CSMs on NG and Active would be given exceptions to Post Regulations in order to maintain a small QRF or to quietly guard sensitive facilities or personnel. If you ended up on one of these teams, you could carry a pistol and/or drew ammunition for your issued rifle/shotgun.
I think our posts are wide-open to attack by terrorists. For this reason, I would require soldiers with CHL to open-carry when on post and in uniform and concealed otherwise.
Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 10:28 pm
Just found this post and it applies to the question I have....I am a civilian and have business at Camp Mabry on Wednesday. Carry or no?