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I just renewed (w00t) and noticed that Category is no longer on the card. Anyone know the reasoning behind this? Can I carry an auto now?

TheCytochromeC wrote:I just renewed (w00t) and noticed that Category is no longer on the card. Anyone know the reasoning behind this? Can I carry an auto now?

The requirement was removed last legislative session. There is no longer an SA / NSA category. A person may qualify with a revolver and is allowed to carry a semi-auto. if you previoulsy had a NSA category you are now allowed to carry a semi-auto.

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Excellent. I did not know this. It was a stupid concept to begin with.

Yeah, I think it stemmed out of the myth that semi-autos are more complicated than revolvers.

They aren't, really. There's maybe 1 extra step to get it ready to fire (racking the slide to chamber the round), but unless it malfunctions, it's just as simple.

TheCytochromeC wrote:I just renewed (w00t) and noticed that Category is no longer on the card. Anyone know the reasoning behind this? Can I carry an auto now?

Some people argue you can legally carry full auto and other NFA firearms without a CHL if it has the tax stamp.

Wolverine wrote:

TheCytochromeC wrote:I just renewed (w00t) and noticed that Category is no longer on the card. Anyone know the reasoning behind this? Can I carry an auto now?

Some people argue you can legally carry full auto and other NFA firearms without a CHL if it has the tax stamp.

You can. It's no different than carrying any other long gun. If it's legally owned (i.e. has the Federal NFA tax stamp), you can carry.

I noticed they did, however, *add* "VETERAN" to mine when I renewed in August. That wasn't there previously, even though I paid the lower cost as an honorably discharged vet and proved my status both times with my DD-214.

ScottDLS wrote:

Wolverine wrote:

TheCytochromeC wrote:I just renewed (w00t) and noticed that Category is no longer on the card. Anyone know the reasoning behind this? Can I carry an auto now?

Some people argue you can legally carry full auto and other NFA firearms without a CHL if it has the tax stamp.

You can. It's no different than carrying any other long gun. If it's legally owned (i.e. has the Federal NFA tax stamp), you can carry.

I was thinking more along the lines of a MAC-10.

Wolverine wrote:

ScottDLS wrote:

Wolverine wrote:

TheCytochromeC wrote:I just renewed (w00t) and noticed that Category is no longer on the card. Anyone know the reasoning behind this? Can I carry an auto now?

Some people argue you can legally carry full auto and other NFA firearms without a CHL if it has the tax stamp.

You can. It's no different than carrying any other long gun. If it's legally owned (i.e. has the Federal NFA tax stamp), you can carry.

I was thinking more along the lines of a MAC-10.

A MAC-10 is legally a pistol or handgun. If you have an NFA and a CHL, then you can conceal it. You cannot legally conceal in Texas with just a NFA stamp.

Wolverine wrote:

ScottDLS wrote:

Wolverine wrote:

TheCytochromeC wrote:I just renewed (w00t) and noticed that Category is no longer on the card. Anyone know the reasoning behind this? Can I carry an auto now?

Some people argue you can legally carry full auto and other NFA firearms without a CHL if it has the tax stamp.

You can. It's no different than carrying any other long gun. If it's legally owned (i.e. has the Federal NFA tax stamp), you can carry.

I was thinking more along the lines of a MAC-10.

I have one and have considered trying to carry it. Though they are really heavy. Apparently there is some "case law" from before CHL that says that a Machine Gun, even a machine pistol like a MAC is not a handgun, so you could carry w/o CHL. If it IS a handgun then you could carry w/ CHL...

As a practical matter, forget it. Open bolt design is very dangerous to carry locked and loaded. The recoil and muzzle flash on full auto is tough and the cyclic rate is 1200RPM. Short barrel means you need to be really careful w/ two hand grip lest you shoot a finger off. Forget about one hand grip. Even on semi it's hard to hold straight, but for spray and pray. Lot's o' fun.

Keith B wrote:

Wolverine wrote:

ScottDLS wrote:

Wolverine wrote:

TheCytochromeC wrote:I just renewed (w00t) and noticed that Category is no longer on the card. Anyone know the reasoning behind this? Can I carry an auto now?

Some people argue you can legally carry full auto and other NFA firearms without a CHL if it has the tax stamp.

You can. It's no different than carrying any other long gun. If it's legally owned (i.e. has the Federal NFA tax stamp), you can carry.

I was thinking more along the lines of a MAC-10.

A MAC-10 is legally a pistol or handgun. If you have an NFA and a CHL, then you can conceal it. You cannot legally conceal in Texas with just a NFA stamp.

Keith I believe there is some case law on this and that a machine gun of any size is NOT a handgun.

ScottDLS wrote:

Keith B wrote:
A MAC 10 is legally a pistol or handgun. If you have an NFA and a CHL, then you can conceal it. You cannot legally conceal in Texas with just a NFA stamp.

Keith I believe there is some case law on this and that a machine gun of any size is NOT a handgun.

Not sure about the case law as federal guidelines may say the MAC 10 is not a machine pistol, but a sub-machine gun. However, for Texas per penal code 46.01:

(5) "Handgun" means any firearm that is designed, made, or adapted to be fired with one hand.

While it would be hard to hold and control a MAC 10 it might be one of those beat the rap, but not the ride deals. However, if you had a NFA stamp and CHL it would definitely cover you.

Cedar Park Dad wrote:Excellent. I did not know this. It was a stupid concept to begin with.

Keith B wrote:

ScottDLS wrote:

Keith B wrote:
A MAC 10 is legally a pistol or handgun. If you have an NFA and a CHL, then you can conceal it. You cannot legally conceal in Texas with just a NFA stamp.

Keith I believe there is some case law on this and that a machine gun of any size is NOT a handgun.

Not sure about the case law as federal guidelines may say the MAC 10 is not a machine pistol, but a sub-machine gun. However, for Texas per penal code 46.01:

(5) "Handgun" means any firearm that is designed, made, or adapted to be fired with one hand.

While it would be hard to hold and control a MAC 10 it might be one of those beat the rap, but not the ride deals. However, if you had a NFA stamp and CHL it would definitely cover you.

I was pretty sure someone posted on this forum that a Texas appellate case decided that a machinegun is by definition not a handgun. I think the reasoning is that it is a prohibited weapon per 46.01, which a handgun is not. So it must be one or the other. Anyway, at about 10lb it's gonna be real hard to conceal and carry.