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Re: VetiGel: The Band-Aid of the Future Stops Bleeding Insta

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 5:36 pm
by gthaustex
Now...that is cool. Thanks for posting Andy. :thumbs2:

Re: VetiGel: The Band-Aid of the Future Stops Bleeding Insta

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 7:34 pm
by joe817
Hasn't the military had for some time something like 'insta-clot', or something like that? Is it similar. Have to admit, don't have time to look at the vid clip. Tnx for posting Andy! :cheers2:

Re: VetiGel: The Band-Aid of the Future Stops Bleeding Insta

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 7:48 pm
by C-dub
I've kept a bottle of this in my emergency kit when training dogs. I don't remember if it stopped bleeding in 20 seconds or not, but it worked pretty well. I also never had to use it on a person, but I'm thinking that if I've got a gunshot or knife wound and this is what I've got, I'm going to use it and worry about whatever fallout later.

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Re: VetiGel: The Band-Aid of the Future Stops Bleeding Insta

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 7:50 pm
by C-dub
Oh, and super glue works well on small, but stubborn cuts that are tough to get the bleeding stopped.

Re: VetiGel: The Band-Aid of the Future Stops Bleeding Insta

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 8:52 am
by Distinguished Rick
joe817 wrote:Hasn't the military had for some time something like 'insta-clot', or something like that? Is it similar. Have to admit, don't have time to look at the vid clip. Tnx for posting Andy! :cheers2:

It's called QuikClot.

Re: VetiGel: The Band-Aid of the Future Stops Bleeding Insta

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:02 am
by Excaliber
If the way it's presented in the video is accurate, this will be a major step forward in wound care. The speed with which it stops bleeding is the key. It would even make femoral artery wounds survivable if applied in time.

Re: VetiGel: The Band-Aid of the Future Stops Bleeding Insta

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 12:36 pm
by WildBill
Excaliber wrote:If the way it's presented in the video is accurate, this will be a major step forward in wound care. The speed with which it stops bleeding is the key. It would even make femoral artery wounds survivable if applied in time.
This looks like a very interesting and useful discovery.

I am very curious about the source and nature of the polymers, but I suppose they want to keep that a secret. ;-)

Thanks for posting AndyC.

Re: VetiGel: The Band-Aid of the Future Stops Bleeding Insta

Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 6:15 pm
by mamabearCali
Does it sting like mad. The wound glue stings to high heaven.

Re: VetiGel: The Band-Aid of the Future Stops Bleeding Insta

Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:31 am
by The Annoyed Man
C-dub wrote:Oh, and super glue works well on small, but stubborn cuts that are tough to get the bleeding stopped.
I believe that superglue was originally developed for surgical applications. I remember even back in the 1980s, they used it to glue pieces of skull back together after brain surgery.

Re: VetiGel: The Band-Aid of the Future Stops Bleeding Insta

Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 4:14 am
by Distinguished Rick
Excaliber wrote:If the way it's presented in the video is accurate, this will be a major step forward in wound care. The speed with which it stops bleeding is the key. It would even make femoral artery wounds survivable if applied in time.
Femoral artery wounds still would require a tourniquet if possible.

Re: VetiGel: The Band-Aid of the Future Stops Bleeding Insta

Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 1:20 pm
by WildBill
The Annoyed Man wrote:
C-dub wrote:Oh, and super glue works well on small, but stubborn cuts that are tough to get the bleeding stopped.
I believe that superglue was originally developed for surgical applications. I remember even back in the 1980s, they used it to glue pieces of skull back together after brain surgery.
According to Wiki "The original cyanoacrylates (the chemical name for the glue) were discovered in 1942 in a search for materials to make clear plastic gun sights during World War II ...". A bit ironic I think.
I also read that guitar players have used it to form finger caps.

Re: VetiGel: The Band-Aid of the Future Stops Bleeding Insta

Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 2:08 pm
by Dave2
WildBill wrote:I also read that guitar players have used it to form finger caps.
That and gaff tape, yeah. Oh, and bass players, too. Somewhere on my computer is a picture of bloody bass from after a show I was working several years ago. I can't remember who it was, but they had a callous on one of their fingers that'd opened up on 2-3 sides, and the superglue cap kept failing, so we had to put gaff tape over the superglue so he could finish the show. I have absolutely no clue how he could keep playing without being able to feel the strings.

Good times... or something like that.

Re: VetiGel: The Band-Aid of the Future Stops Bleeding Insta

Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 2:41 pm
by MeMelYup
Dave2 wrote:
WildBill wrote:I also read that guitar players have used it to form finger caps.
That and gaff tape, yeah. Oh, and bass players, too. Somewhere on my computer is a picture of bloody bass from after a show I was working several years ago. I can't remember who it was, but they had a callous on one of their fingers that'd opened up on 2-3 sides, and the superglue cap kept failing, so we had to put gaff tape over the superglue so he could finish the show. I have absolutely no clue how he could keep playing without being able to feel the strings.

Good times... or something like that.
Practice makes perfect. Muscle memory, his fingers knew what they needed to do.

Re: VetiGel: The Band-Aid of the Future Stops Bleeding Insta

Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 6:16 pm
by Excaliber
Distinguished Rick wrote:
Excaliber wrote:If the way it's presented in the video is accurate, this will be a major step forward in wound care. The speed with which it stops bleeding is the key. It would even make femoral artery wounds survivable if applied in time.
Femoral artery wounds still would require a tourniquet if possible.
Quite likely true, but it's difficult to get one applied right and in time because of the thickness of the leg at that point and proximity to the torso. Having something that would even slow the bleeding substantially would help the tourniquet work and also provide more time to get it right.