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Dad24GreatKids wrote:Will there be a bill introduced this session that allows a CHL to carry while participating on a church safety team? If so, what are the chances of passing?

Charles L. Cotton wrote:

Dad24GreatKids wrote:Will there be a bill introduced this session that allows a CHL to carry while participating on a church safety team? If so, what are the chances of passing?

Unless something blows up, a church bill will be filed. It's chances will depend on who is Chair of House Homeland Security & Public Safety Committee. Industry will oppose it again, but their lobbyist may be a bit reluctant to outright lie, since he got caught doing so law session.

Chas.

Bladed wrote:

Charles L. Cotton wrote:

Dad24GreatKids wrote:Will there be a bill introduced this session that allows a CHL to carry while participating on a church safety team? If so, what are the chances of passing?

Unless something blows up, a church bill will be filed. It's chances will depend on who is Chair of House Homeland Security & Public Safety Committee. Industry will oppose it again, but their lobbyist may be a bit reluctant to outright lie, since he got caught doing so law session.

Chas.

How did they lie? I must have missed this story.

Charles L. Cotton wrote:

TresHuevos wrote:

gugisman wrote:I wish it was so simple. The problem is when you start making active shooter/bomber response plans, designating armed individuals to sit in certain areas, develop crowd control commands, and so on.

The law needs to be changed. A private industry must not be allowed to influence our legislators to pass laws that restrict freedom of worship, which by regulating volunteer security teams, it does.

This law is also being used to restrict volunteer armed teams from providing security on privately owned lands on or near the Mexican border.

Please join me when it becomes time to testify in support of the amended bill, sometime in 2015.

I'm curious what proof you have that the contract security industry is doing any type of lobbying on this matter. I work in this field and I know of no position either for or against. The company that I work for wouldn't take a contract at a church, it's just not the type of business that we do.

Unfortunately, the legislative website doesn't have the witness list posted for the public hearing testimony on HB2535 on April 11, 2013, during the 2013 legislative session. However, you can watch the video of the public hearing and you will hear the testimony of security industry lobbyist, Allen Trevino of ASSIST. His testimony begins at 2:06:29. He testified against the bill and even falsely stated that the bill wasn't necessary because churches can already do what the Bill would allow. Then DPS Capt. RenEarl Bowie was called to testify as a resource witness and he refuted what the industry lobbyist has just stated.

Chas.

Charles L. Cotton wrote: Unfortunately, the legislative website doesn't have the witness list posted for the public hearing testimony on HB2535 on April 11, 2013, during the 2013 legislative session. However, you can watch the video of the public hearing and you will hear the testimony of security industry lobbyist, Allen Trevino of ASSIST. His testimony begins at 2:06:29. He testified against the bill and even falsely stated that the bill wasn't necessary because churches can already do what the Bill would allow. Then DPS Capt. RenEarl Bowie was called to testify as a resource witness and he refuted what the industry lobbyist has just stated.

Chas.

Dad24GreatKids wrote:I listened to the testimony. I am surprised that no one pointed out that the DPS website explicitly addresses this question and states that volunteers cannot be armed. Even the DPS representative didn't do that.