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French Gun Laws

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 7:43 pm
by philip964
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2012/0 ... stuff-com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

In case you had any doubts.

RIP brave cartoonists and LEO's

Re: French Gun Laws

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 10:11 pm
by Greybeard
So ... the cops that were there had to retreat and let them escape ... because the cops were UNARMED. Up against black market full autos.

http://news.yahoo.com/paris-hebdo-attac ... 16412.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: French Gun Laws

Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 10:15 am
by philip964
http://dailycaller.com/2015/01/07/unarm ... men-video/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Three police officers at the scene of the Paris terrorist attack retreated as they were not armed.

The police officer who was executed on the sidewalk was Muslim.

Re: French Gun Laws

Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 10:31 am
by suthdj
philip964 wrote:http://dailycaller.com/2015/01/07/unarm ... men-video/

Three police officers at the scene of the Paris terrorist attack retreated as they were not armed.

The police officer who was executed on the sidewalk was Muslim.
This
Paris police officers have the option of carrying firearms, though many choose not to.

Re: French Gun Laws

Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 11:23 am
by MeMelYup
suthdj wrote:
philip964 wrote:http://dailycaller.com/2015/01/07/unarm ... men-video/

Three police officers at the scene of the Paris terrorist attack retreated as they were not armed.

The police officer who was executed on the sidewalk was Muslim.
This
Paris police officers have the option of carrying firearms, though many choose not to.
What good were the police in this situation? They fell down on their obligation to protect the public.

Re: French Gun Laws

Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 11:56 am
by VMI77
Last time I was in Paris....been over 15 years....I didn't see an unarmed cop and a lot of them were sporting sub-machine guns.

The French guns laws have the desired effect of all gun laws....to ensure that criminals and the State have a monopoly on self-defense. The State wants the criminals to have guns so that the populace is dependent on the State for protection. Both criminals and the State love having defenseless sheep to prey on. It's a symbiotic relationship.

I don't share the antipathy many have toward France, but OTOH, while I don't welcome their destruction, since they've chosen to commit national suicide I'm indifferent to the outcome. Then again, this country, against the will of the majority as in France and other European countries, has also chosen a slow motion national suicide.

Re: French Gun Laws

Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 12:23 pm
by VMI77
BTW, French gun laws are not as restrictive as the laws in the UK, Australia, and other European countries:
In France, to buy a firearm, a hunting license or a shooting sport license is necessary. All semi-automatic rifles with a capacity greater than 3 rounds, all handguns and all rifles chambered in 'military' calibers, including bolt action, require permits. These are known as B1, B2 and B4 type permits. Firearms are divided into eight categories that determine the regulations that apply to their possession and use. France also sets limits on the number of cartridges that can be kept at home (1000 rounds per gun).

The total number of firearms owned by an individual is also subject to limits (not possible to have more than 12 authorizations/permits on B1, B2 and B4 type firearms).[27] As of September, 2013, France has a capacity limit of 20 rounds for handguns;[28] one needs a permit for category one[clarification needed] semi-automatics that have a capacity greater than 3 rounds. Fully automatic firearms are illegal for civilian ownership.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_law#France

Re: French Gun Laws

Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 5:03 pm
by BobCat
Here is a link that might be interesting:
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2 ... onry-video

A far-use quote from the article:

"Unlike relatively lax US gun regulation, French laws are highly restrictive, especially for assault weapons. After the Hebdo attack, gun control laws will likely get prominent attention here.

But tightening legal arms sales is likely to be less important and certainly less challenging than cracking down on the sizable illegal arms trade in France and across Europe.

For every legal firearm in France, for example, there are nearly two illegal ones, experts say. While the exact number is not known, estimates run to 10 to 20 million illegal weapons in circulation in France’s population of 65 million."

I have no idea whether the civil police there are routinely armed or not, but if the two policemen assigned to the newspaper were armed, I'd expect them to have at least gotten a couple of shots off and maybe winged or wounded one of the attackers before they were killed.

Re: French Gun Laws

Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 8:11 pm
by rotor
philip964 wrote:http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2012/0 ... stuff-com/

In case you had any doubts.

RIP brave cartoonists and LEO's
I use "Malwarebytes" Anti-Malware software and the website above just lit up like lightning when I clicked on it. Just be careful when we refer people to sites that we think are safe.

Re: French Gun Laws

Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 10:11 pm
by philip964
rotor wrote:
philip964 wrote:http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2012/0 ... stuff-com/

In case you had any doubts.

RIP brave cartoonists and LEO's
I use "Malwarebytes" Anti-Malware software and the website above just lit up like lightning when I clicked on it. Just be careful when we refer people to sites that we think are safe.
So I guess your saying the website "the truth about guns" is not safe. I'll remember in the future.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/police-office ... ml#3rEbMBm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This is from a known website. A second terrorist attack in Paris. A police woman was killed. Unknown whether she was armed. However, the terrorist had a bulletproof vest on and what was described as an automatic rifle.

Re: French Gun Laws

Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 11:59 pm
by rotor
Many of these websites have advertisers that will download malware to your computer, tracking cookies, whatever. Malwarebytes is a good protection software. Norton doesn't block these. I don't claim to be an expert but have been hit by malware.

Re: French Gun Laws

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 9:28 am
by anygunanywhere
Why didn't strict gun laws prevent Charlie Hebdo massacre?

Really?

You can't make this stuff up.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tim-graham ... rlie-hebdo

Re: French Gun Laws

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 11:45 am
by philip964
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... pital.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Mass exodus of Jews from France. If you can't get a gun to protect yourself, the police are unarmed, and your being targeted, what choice do you have?

Interesting how terrorists in France have automatic weapons. Where mass killers in America do not.

Do strict gun laws cause criminals to get more firepower?

Re: French Gun Laws

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 1:27 pm
by K.Mooneyham
TheTruthAboutGuns is a legitimate and generally okay site with a lot of info, though they have some rather strongly held opinions. The site seems to be down right now, so I'd imagine it possible they've been hit with a hacker attack as I was just at the site a day or so ago. I'll recheck and update later.