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at a loss in searching a state law
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 9:14 pm
by powerboatr
Maybe my search definitions are to not pointed enough
but i am looking for the state law that requires you to carry your medicines in the prescription container it was given to you at the pharmacy.
my problem is i carry non registered pain meds for my back and i simply will not carry up to 270 of them with me, i would be freaked out if they somehow were stolen from my truck and used wrongly.
I routinely carry a few in an old round aspirin container with no labels
I am concerned now of a roadside pull over and the overzealous leo having a COPS moment
i asked a deputy and was told i had to carry the prescription container, but he was unsure the actual law...which really made me fell secure
so I ask what am i doing wrong in the search to find the law
Re: at a loss in searching a state law
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 9:31 pm
by RoyGBiv
I use last month's container to carry a handful of meds in the car or when traveling.
Pretty easy to rotate containers and the pills match the label.
Re: at a loss in searching a state law
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 9:42 pm
by chasfm11
You may be looking for this.
http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/21cfr ... index.html
But there have been updates. As of October, 2014, there are changes to how certain medications can be prescribed and dispensed. We were dealing with that today as my wife tried to renew her pain killer prescription after surgery. The doctor cannot simply call the pharmacy and request a renewal and cannot even write the prescription on the new required form without physically seeing the patient. I wouldn't think of have those pills in my possession with the original bottle.
Re: at a loss in searching a state law
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 9:45 pm
by baldeagle
You may not being doing anything wrong. If it was against the law to possess prescription drugs in any container other than the prescribing pharmacy's container, I would expect to find that law in the Texas Penal Code. There is no mention of that in the Penal Code (that I found.) The only mention of prescription medication in the Penal Code refers to bringing them into a correctional facility.
It's entirely possible that some city has an ordnance that prohibits it, but that would depend entirely on the city you are in at the time you are pulled over.
Maybe some of the LEOs on the board will know more.
Re: at a loss in searching a state law
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 9:53 pm
by DocV
Health and Safety Code 481 by any chance? From what I can understand in my skimming, it addresses controlled substances. I am having a difficult time seeing where it states you need to use the original container. Perhaps that is a Federal?requirement? That said, it might be possible that your pharmacy can help you figure out how to carry small doses of prescription pills safely and with proper documentation.
Re: at a loss in searching a state law
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 10:02 pm
by C-dub
Powerboatr, have you asked your pharmacist or a pharmacist?
I'm wondering if it might be an FDA law/regulation.
Re: at a loss in searching a state law
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 10:19 pm
by tomtexan
RoyGBiv wrote:I use last month's container to carry a handful of meds in the car or when traveling.
Pretty easy to rotate containers and the pills match the label.
That seems to be the best and easiest solution.
Re: at a loss in searching a state law
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 10:31 pm
by MeMelYup
Don't know of that law. If there is such a law, a lot of home nurses break it with older patients as they will put pills in the plastic weekly dispensers. I also know of quite a few people that use the metal capsules for their nitro pills and other meds. I can understand your concern if you have several morphine pills on you for pain and get stopped by the police looking for dope.
Re: at a loss in searching a state law
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 10:34 pm
by gljjt
Carry a copy of the pharmacy receipt (not the payment receipt). It has all the info showing you have a valid prescription.
Re: at a loss in searching a state law
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 12:02 am
by powerboatr
THANKS
i do have older bottles, if needed, but most of my meds are 90 day supplies and express scripts refuse to print a duplicate bottle label citing the new fda rules on hydrocodone, tramadol and other non Opiate pain meds. that are now on the ABUSED list and really hurts those who actually need them. and within this new rulling only a 30 day supply can only be dispensed.
I manage the tramadol and others by not carrying them as they also interfere with my driving. But my other meds do not mess with your ability to drive or operate machinery, in a way to make you dangerous. Then add in i have been on them for long long time , but they are classified
the few pharmacist we discussed it with are also unaware of such state law.
my wife on the other hand has some very potent meds that should never ever fall in the hands of non user due to danger and street value.
so she never carries more than what she needs while we are out. but if we get searched she would be carrying the class of drug that get you hard time.
I searched and searched and could not find a state law to apply, I wanted to have it handy, just in case.
I got real nervy last month when we came back from the valley and the customs check point on 77 went long and i thought we were about to be mandated to to be searched, (drug dog acted odd as he walked around our RV). but in the rv we had all our pill bottles, but i didnt want to have to watch some guy count to 270 or somewhere in between and we have to account daily for any differences in the quantity
not to mention the arsenal we had onboard

. we like to go the range when visiting south texas, so we had lots of bullets and numerous pistols, shotguns and rifles. I could see CNN reporting and spinning us as terrorists
Re: at a loss in searching a state law
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 12:07 pm
by VMI77
powerboatr wrote:I got real nervy last month when we came back from the valley and the customs check point on 77 went long and i thought we were about to be mandated to to be searched, (drug dog acted odd as he walked around our RV). but in the rv we had all our pill bottles, but i didnt want to have to watch some guy count to 270 or somewhere in between and we have to account daily for any differences in the quantity
not to mention the arsenal we had onboard

. we like to go the range when visiting south texas, so we had lots of bullets and numerous pistols, shotguns and rifles. I could see CNN reporting and spinning us as terrorists
If you're Caucasian, Christian, conservative, and you own guns, you ARE a terrorist in the eyes of CNN, and a potential terrorist in the eyes of the Feds. You actually don't have to be Christian....just Caucasian and conservative, and guns are just the icing on the cake.
Re: at a loss in searching a state law
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 12:17 pm
by ELB
Regardless of whether there is a law or not, I think you and your wife would be wise to not have her prescription meds in anything other than a bottle with the prescription on it. Like someone else said, I would save the previous one (usually the "expiration date" is a year into the future) and use it to carry the day's supply in.
ExpressScripts may not give you two bottles/labels for the same prescription, but I know our local pharmacy, when it did not have enough pills on hand to fill the Rx entirely, gave us one bottle with enough to tide my wife over for a couple days, and then another with the balance of the prescription. You might be able to ask your local one to split the Rx into two bottles with pill counts on them that total up to the prescription amount.
Re: at a loss in searching a state law
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 7:39 pm
by C-dub
I spoke to a pharmacist friend of mine today and she said there are state and federal laws, but did not know them off the top of her head. She said the state laws are probably in the Texas State Board of Pharmacy Laws and Rules. I'm searching through there now and will let you know if I find what you're looking for. She said I was right that the FDA also has something and will try and find that, but that the state laws are more strict than the feds and they just go by the state laws for that reason.
Re: at a loss in searching a state law
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 7:50 pm
by C-dub
It may be in here somewhere, but I haven't found it yet.
http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/D ... HS.481.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: at a loss in searching a state law
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 8:14 pm
by Jumping Frog
Not sure if I am simply fooling myself, but when traveling with medications in one of those 7 day pill dispensers, I have photographs of all the original pill bottles with the labels clearly readable on my phone. I assume I need to provide evidence that the prescription is mine and legal, not provide actual pill bottles.
Also note that every photo also clearly identifies the pharmacy, telephone #, and prescription #. They can always call the pharmacy directly and verify.