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thought this could be handy to know.

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/prelim06/t4ok_wi.htm

Thanks for sharing that.

Just eyeballing it, murders seem to be about even or down in every city except Houston and San Antonio. Katrina effect maybe?

stroo wrote:Just eyeballing it, murders seem to be about even or down in every city except Houston and San Antonio. Katrina effect maybe?

You just answered your own question with a question.

I wish this report was in "per 100,000", not raw numbers. Raw numbers are useless; the number of murders in Houston metro will always be several hundred times the number of murders in Texarkana. I'm pretty good with math, but doing both the quickie calculation and navigating through the different states makes it pretty hard to compare.

I wonder why Austin, the Capital city, was left out

O6nop wrote:I wonder why Austin, the Capital city, was left out

That is pretty weird, considering the fact that there are WAY smaller cities included there. I sent them an e-mail asking why Austin was not included.

stroo wrote:Just eyeballing it, murders seem to be about even or down in every city except Houston and San Antonio. Katrina effect maybe?

Lubbock murder numbers are wrong. I can name 4 murders off the top of my head that happened in 2006 alone and that fulfills the 4 that they have listed. I would start that number closer to 20-25 min.

My four:

1. 40yr old something prostitute - never found killer
2. Club shooting....350lb man killed bouncer and someone else - I think the killer got life in prison due to health reasons and he will die soon anyway
3. 7/11 robbery...robbers kill clerk - don't think they ever caught the guy

I think they forgot to put a notation to multiply the murder figure by 10.

Those numbers are January-June 2006, not the entire year.

All the data is not available until a couple of years later. The states have different methods for reporting data to the FBI, and some are slow.

- Jim

Just an FYI, news reports day before yesterday indicated that the 2006 FBI stats showed Houston to be, per capita, the city with the number two murder rate in the nation among the 10 largest cities. Number one is Philadelphia.

But I think Stroo is right on the money: the Katrina Effect. The population estimates the FBI used were from July, 2005, a few months before Houston experienced a rapid influx of about 125,000 people as a result of Hurricane Katrina. Too, of the 377 homicides in Houston in 2006, 74 involved Katrina evacuees...that's almost 20%.

That by no means offers any warm-and-fuzzies about living here. But it does help explain that long-time Houstonians didn't start going on rampages. The YTD homicides for 2007 are down compared to the same period in 2006.

Couple of links:

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/hea ... 61918.html
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/met ... 65249.html

I got an answer back from whoever answers the e-mail address cjis_comm@leo.gov :

Austin is included in the report at that web address, listed between
Arlington and Beaumont.

I sent them screen shots of the page in my browser, as well as the relevant section of page source, showing nothing listed between Arlington and Beaumont. Perhaps there's a discrepancy between what they see for that address internally and what we see.

I've gotten a reply with a slightly different URL for a page that includes the Austin listings:

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/06prelim/t4ok-wi.htm

I advised them that the referring page at http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/prelim06/table4index.htm is still pointing to the incorrect file that lacks the Austin listing, and needs to be updated.