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Went to the Spec's down in Missouri City (Riverstone neighborhood) this evening and they have a 51% sign on the door???

Got home and looked them up on the TABC Website (thanks for the lesson Keith) and they are Gun Sign = Blue.

Downloaded the complaint form and submitted it to TABC.

We'll see what happens. I sure hope they change it as I really like that Specs and I am going to hate finding a new package store.

It's probably just a mistake by that manager. I've been in two Spec's and both of them only had the "Unlicensed Possession" signs posted. If it were intentional, they probably would have put up a 30.06 instead.

I've been in and out that particular Spec's for years now and never seen a 51% sign. Always the Blue Unlicensed Carry sign.

It's changed in the last few weeks...

I've been in other Spec's as well and only noticed the Blue signs as well.

You can still shop there while concealed carrying even though they have the wrong sign. It's what the TABC says, not what sign they have up if they have the wrong sign up.

mojo84 wrote:You can still shop there while concealed carrying even though they have the wrong sign. It's what the TABC says, not what sign they have up if they have the wrong sign up.

I appreciate that but I look at intent. Someone at that store doesn't want guns there. If that's the case, they don't want my money either. We'll see if it gets corrected...

RJGold wrote:

mojo84 wrote:You can still shop there while concealed carrying even though they have the wrong sign. It's what the TABC says, not what sign they have up if they have the wrong sign up.

I appreciate that but I look at intent. Someone at that store doesn't want guns there. If that's the case, they don't want my money either. We'll see if it gets corrected...

They also might very well have only put up the signs they were sent and were ignorant of what was and was not supposed to be posted.

C-dub wrote:

RJGold wrote:

mojo84 wrote:You can still shop there while concealed carrying even though they have the wrong sign. It's what the TABC says, not what sign they have up if they have the wrong sign up.

I appreciate that but I look at intent. Someone at that store doesn't want guns there. If that's the case, they don't want my money either. We'll see if it gets corrected...

They also might very well have only put up the signs they were sent and were ignorant of what was and was not supposed to be posted.

Up until a few weeks ago, they had blue signs. They changed to 51% a few weeks ago. Not sure what drove the change.

RJGold wrote:

mojo84 wrote:You can still shop there while concealed carrying even though they have the wrong sign. It's what the TABC says, not what sign they have up if they have the wrong sign up.

I appreciate that but I look at intent. Someone at that store doesn't want guns there. If that's the case, they don't want my money either. We'll see if it gets corrected...

People commonly put up the signs incorrectly without realizing it. They probably assumed that was the right one since they sell liquor. They will be required by law to correct it when TABC addresses it. I wouldn't assume their intent is to prohibit concealed carry.

If they put up a 30.06 sign, then that's different.

mojo84 wrote:

RJGold wrote:

mojo84 wrote:You can still shop there while concealed carrying even though they have the wrong sign. It's what the TABC says, not what sign they have up if they have the wrong sign up.

I appreciate that but I look at intent. Someone at that store doesn't want guns there. If that's the case, they don't want my money either. We'll see if it gets corrected...

People commonly put up the signs incorrectly without realizing it. They probably assumed that was the right one since they sell liquor. They will be required by law to correct it when TABC addresses it. I wouldn't assume their intent is to prohibit concealed carry.

If they put up a 30.06 sign, then that's different.

I can't argue intent. I just know the signs have been blue for a few years and are now red. Same people working there as far as I can tell.

I noticed recently that the 51% sign is gone from this location...

They didn't put the "unlicensed carry" sign back up but the 51% sign is no longer in the window.

RJGold wrote:I noticed recently that the 51% sign is gone from this location...

They didn't put the "unlicensed carry" sign back up but the 51% sign is no longer in the window.

Which makes sense, because a package store is not normally licensed for "on-premises consumption". They should be only displaying the "unlicensed possession" signs (according to what I understand about the laws), so apparently there's someone there who is very confused (imagine that, with all the conversations we have on the forum about the same laws!).

RJGold wrote:I noticed recently that the 51% sign is gone from this location...

They didn't put the "unlicensed carry" sign back up but the 51% sign is no longer in the window.

Possibly TABC contacted them.

jimlongley wrote:

RJGold wrote:I noticed recently that the 51% sign is gone from this location...

They didn't put the "unlicensed carry" sign back up but the 51% sign is no longer in the window.

Possibly TABC contacted them.

Possible. I notified TABC via their website a few months ago. I haven't been back down there in a while and just noticed it this weekend.

Unless I'm mistaken they shouldn't have ANY 51% signs up as it is illegal to consume alcohol in a liquor store in Texas.

I think they should have the blue unlicensed weapons prohibited sign up.