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First lets get a little background out of the way. I was going to help out a friend pick up a washer and dryer from a web posting. I felt it best to go ahead and have my carry weapon in the center console of his truck since I would be doing some heavy lifting. This friend is a military veteran with plenty of experience around firearms. Then finally my concealed carry is a Glock 23.

The situation was my friend was in the driver seat and I had just stepped out of the vehicle on the passenger side with the door still open. This is the moment it happened. My friend was moving the firearm to retrieve something under it. He picked up the firearm from the holster instead of the frame of the firearm. The holster it was in was my concealed carry holster so no retention strap. The firearm fell out of the holster bounced on the seat, the floor board, and into the trash that was on the floor. I witnessed the firearm spin multiple times with the muzzle pointing towards me a couple times... In the end there was no accidental discharge or anything like that we just ended up extremely lucky.

With that said there were many mistakes there here are a couple.
My friend assumed there wasn't a round in chamber because it was not a way he was used to with someone carrying. rule number one broken.
My friend assumed there was a retention strap securing the weapon firmly to the holster.
I assumed that my friend was familiar with IWB holsters seeing as most use passive retention(pressure from the body against the holster).

Heart stopping to be sure or a skipped beat at the least.

Glad it worked out. I would go into how I store mine in the truck but I'm sure you have all that worked out by now.

I recall Tom Gresham stating on his show that you should be able to run around and roll on the ground without your concealed pistol falling out. I think he was thinking that if you end up wrestling with an attacker you don't want your pistol falling on the ground.

I am not sure if my holsters would do that or not.

With modern firearms, there is little chance of a surprise discharge due to a gun falling unless something slips into the trigger guard in the process, like a finger on a hand trying to catch it. I am glad the friend didn't try to catch the gun and everything worked out OK.

MechAg94 wrote:I recall Tom Gresham stating on his show that you should be able to run around and roll on the ground without your concealed pistol falling out. I think he was thinking that if you end up wrestling with an attacker you don't want your pistol falling on the ground.

I am not sure if my holsters would do that or not.

If you decide to test that, please remove the magazine and clear the chamber first.

baldeagle wrote:

MechAg94 wrote:I recall Tom Gresham stating on his show that you should be able to run around and roll on the ground without your concealed pistol falling out. I think he was thinking that if you end up wrestling with an attacker you don't want your pistol falling on the ground.

I am not sure if my holsters would do that or not.

If you decide to test that, please remove the magazine and clear the chamber first.

Definitely. Preferably with a blue gun instead.

I would have been more worried about the gun falling on the ground and getting scratched up. I do think it's a good thing his reflexes didn't make him try to catch it, especially being a Glock. That's not a slam on Glocks by the way.

Leather, nylon or Kydex?

None of my kydex holsters would do this, especially those with a retention screw like my Comp-tac Infidel.

If you have not already, spend the money on good polymer holsters. Stays open to reholster better, resists sweat and oils better, allows for better retention options like hugging the trigger guard, ejection port, etc.

AJSully421 wrote:Leather, nylon or Kydex?

None of my kydex holsters would do this, especially those with a retention screw like my Comp-tac Infidel.

If you have not already, spend the money on good polymer holsters. Stays open to reholster better, resists sweat and oils better, allows for better retention options like hugging the trigger guard, ejection port, etc.

Its actually a kydex/leather holster that i use and the retention is just fine when i have it on my side. This is what I currently use http://www.tripletholsters.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.

If it's a Glock, doesn't it have the "trigger safety" on it?
If so, it would even be more difficult to have it discharge "by itself"

Dave09 wrote:

AJSully421 wrote:Leather, nylon or Kydex?

None of my kydex holsters would do this, especially those with a retention screw like my Comp-tac Infidel.

If you have not already, spend the money on good polymer holsters. Stays open to reholster better, resists sweat and oils better, allows for better retention options like hugging the trigger guard, ejection port, etc.

Its actually a kydex/leather holster that i use and the retention is just fine when i have it on my side. This is what I currently use http://www.tripletholsters.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.

Interesting... should not easily come out with the molding in the kydex acting like a retention. I don't know then... glad you didn't get deaf or dead.

Being a Glock, it will NOT fire when dropped, unless something's broken (or as previously mentioned, if someone tried to grab it and got their finger in the trigger guard).

Glocks have not just the little doohickey on the trigger, but a firing pin block as well. The firing pin has a cutout on one side that matches a vertical plunger held inside the slide. When the trigger is depressed, a portion of the trigger mechanism pushes this spring-loaded plunger up, freeing the firing pin. Until the trigger is pulled, that firing pin -cannot- reach the primer of the chambered round.

AR 15s, most pump shotguns, and several other firearms lack this mechanism, and are not safe to drop with a loaded chamber. Glocks, however, along with most modern pistols, are perfectly safe when dropped. It's still unnerving to have the wrong end of it pointed at one's self, though.

AJSully421 wrote:

Dave09 wrote:

AJSully421 wrote:Leather, nylon or Kydex?

None of my kydex holsters would do this, especially those with a retention screw like my Comp-tac Infidel.

If you have not already, spend the money on good polymer holsters. Stays open to reholster better, resists sweat and oils better, allows for better retention options like hugging the trigger guard, ejection port, etc.

Its actually a kydex/leather holster that i use and the retention is just fine when i have it on my side. This is what I currently use http://www.tripletholsters.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.

Interesting... should not easily come out with the molding in the kydex acting like a retention. I don't know then... glad you didn't get deaf or dead.

My crossbreed has very good retention when I am wearing it because the leather is being pressed against the gun by my hip. when not being worn, this pressure is not there. If it were to retain off body like that, the increase in the retention while wearing it wouldn't be preferable.

Some people just never connect.
My friends still ask about my firearms "is it loaded?"
And they get them same old lecture each time, the punch line is a gun is not unloaded until they check for themselves.