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And in Mississippi no less.....we're quickly headed down the rabbit hole. John Corrazine remains free after stealing hundred's of millions of dollars and ruining lives, but cheer at a HS graduation...go to jail.

Four people who cheered at a Mississippi high school graduation may be thrown in jail after police issued warrants for their arrest. The superintendent who filed the charges said it’s a necessary move and he is demanding order at the ceremony.

Got to have order. North Korea has a lot of that.....guess we'll be importing some under the TPP.

Sounds like the school board should quickly step in and remind the superintendent who he works for.

It does suck that some people get out of hand and others may not hear their child's name announced, but criminal charges?

These school districts should be reminded every day who pays there salaries.

This is a problem that needs a solution. Two weeks ago I attended my sons graduation in Mississippi and there were 4-5 outbursts involving yelling, cow bells and air horns. Each time it was disturbing and painful to experience. To be clear, what I am speaking of is not simply verbal support. What this is and I am talking about is far beyond that.

harrycallahan wrote:This is a problem that needs a solution. Two weeks ago I attended my sons graduation in Mississippi and there were 4-5 outbursts involving yelling, cow bells and air horns. Each time it was disturbing and painful to experience. To be clear, what I am speaking of is not simply verbal support. What this is and I am talking about is far beyond that.

The problem stems from the fact that our society is manufacturing entitled snowflakes and jerks at an unprecedented rate. It's a symptom of a dying and decadent society. There are other possible sanctions but the school here is just taking the easy way out and using the police to address a problem that is the responsibility of the school. The school administration lacks the courage and integrity to fix the problem so it throws it in the lap of the police. The police here apparently lack the courage and discretion to tell the school to deal with its own problems. Yes, entitled jerks and idiots are a problem, but jailing them for stupid human tricks like this isn't the solution, and is more of a detriment to the society as a whole than what the jerks are doing.

This is absurd. The School Board needs to terminate the Superintendent's contract, then sue him if the school gets sued over his Hitler syndrome. I watched the video and there weren't any cowbells, bullhorns, or anything else not heard at every graduation I've seen. The superintendent is a power-hungry jerk. If I was on the school board, I wouldn't even listed to his excuse; he'd be out in a heartbeat. There's nothing he could say that would make any difference.

If I was a COP in that town, he wouldn't be able to drive two blocks without violating some traffic law and he'd get a ticket every single time. I hate control freaks, especially those employed by the government!

Chas.

VMI77 wrote:

harrycallahan wrote:This is a problem that needs a solution. Two weeks ago I attended my sons graduation in Mississippi and there were 4-5 outbursts involving yelling, cow bells and air horns. Each time it was disturbing and painful to experience. To be clear, what I am speaking of is not simply verbal support. What this is and I am talking about is far beyond that.

The problem stems from the fact that our society is manufacturing entitled snowflakes and jerks at an unprecedented rate. It's a symptom of a dying and decadent society. There are other possible sanctions but the school here is just taking the easy way out and using the police to address a problem that is the responsibility of the school. The school administration lacks the courage and integrity to fix the problem so it throws it in the lap of the police. The police here apparently lack the courage and discretion to tell the school to deal with its own problems. Yes, entitled jerks and idiots are a problem, but jailing them for stupid human tricks like this isn't the solution, and is more of a detriment to the society as a whole than what the jerks are doing.

I am not sure you and I are on the same page here. I actually don't agree with the superintendent's actions in this case.

The superintendent did the right thing - when he told them to leave (though I think to be fair, that should have been part of the initial announcement "Please, hold your applause and verbal shout outs until after all of the names have been called. If you ignore this request, you will be told to leave the premises. Please, don't make us embarrass you and your graduate on this special day" and the do it.

However, arrest warrants are way over the top. I hope they sue him.

So a school superintendent can files charges for disturbing the peace against a citizen??? Maybe the article is misrepresenting a complaint as filing charges. At any rate I'm with you Charles about this guy's behavior and what should happen.

ScooterSissy wrote:The superintendent did the right thing - when he told them to leave (though I think to be fair, that should have been part of the initial announcement "Please, hold your applause and verbal shout outs until after all of the names have been called. If you ignore this request, you will be told to leave the premises. Please, don't make us embarrass you and your graduate on this special day" and the do it.

Why is it right, just because that's the way he wanted it? It's not his school, his district or his kids graduating. What was done is done at every graduation. It a proud moment for student and family, especially families in communities where high school graduation rates are low. He clearly thinks that his word is law; I'd show him otherwise.

Chas.

harrycallahan wrote:

VMI77 wrote:

harrycallahan wrote:This is a problem that needs a solution. Two weeks ago I attended my sons graduation in Mississippi and there were 4-5 outbursts involving yelling, cow bells and air horns. Each time it was disturbing and painful to experience. To be clear, what I am speaking of is not simply verbal support. What this is and I am talking about is far beyond that.

The problem stems from the fact that our society is manufacturing entitled snowflakes and jerks at an unprecedented rate. It's a symptom of a dying and decadent society. There are other possible sanctions but the school here is just taking the easy way out and using the police to address a problem that is the responsibility of the school. The school administration lacks the courage and integrity to fix the problem so it throws it in the lap of the police. The police here apparently lack the courage and discretion to tell the school to deal with its own problems. Yes, entitled jerks and idiots are a problem, but jailing them for stupid human tricks like this isn't the solution, and is more of a detriment to the society as a whole than what the jerks are doing.

I actually don't agree with the superintendent's actions in this case.

Didn't really think you did. You said it was a problem that needs a solution. To the extent I agree with that my response is just that it is a problem for the school administration to deal with, not the police. However, I'm not convinced it's that much of a problem. To me it seems like some possibly inconsiderate behavior that doesn't rise beyond a minor irritation. I'm a little more jaded than most on the meaning and effort represented by a high school diploma (and most college diplomas) but for a lot of people it is a celebration of accomplishment. I don't think one should expect quiet reverence for such a celebration. The ceremony needs to provide adequate time for each student to be celebrated if that is their desire.

I attended my granddaughter's HS graduation this past Friday in Burnet. As each student's name was called, a cheer went up from his or her friends and family. Each time, they quickly quieted down and you could hear the next student's name called.

That superintendent is a self important demigod that needs to find himself flipping burgers next week.

Charles L. Cotton wrote:

ScooterSissy wrote:The superintendent did the right thing - when he told them to leave (though I think to be fair, that should have been part of the initial announcement "Please, hold your applause and verbal shout outs until after all of the names have been called. If you ignore this request, you will be told to leave the premises. Please, don't make us embarrass you and your graduate on this special day" and the do it.

Why is it right, just because that's the way he wanted it? It's not his school, his district or his kids graduating. What was done is done at every graduation. It a proud moment for student and family, especially families in communities where high school graduation rates are low. He clearly thinks that his word is law; I'd show him otherwise.

Chas.

I guess my view is what it is because of the nature of where I live. I've been to a ton of graduations, and they typically involve multiple schools in the DFW area. This often means literally thousands of kids. So, the announcement is made to hold applause and cheering until the end. As another person mentioned, this becomes a problem when 99% of the folks comply, and then there's that bozo that thinks it applies to everyone else.

Personally, I'd hate to sit through one of these graduations if there was 30 seconds of applause after each one.

ScooterSissy wrote:

Charles L. Cotton wrote:

ScooterSissy wrote:The superintendent did the right thing - when he told them to leave (though I think to be fair, that should have been part of the initial announcement "Please, hold your applause and verbal shout outs until after all of the names have been called. If you ignore this request, you will be told to leave the premises. Please, don't make us embarrass you and your graduate on this special day" and the do it.

Why is it right, just because that's the way he wanted it? It's not his school, his district or his kids graduating. What was done is done at every graduation. It a proud moment for student and family, especially families in communities where high school graduation rates are low. He clearly thinks that his word is law; I'd show him otherwise.

Chas.

I guess my view is what it is because of the nature of where I live. I've been to a ton of graduations, and they typically involve multiple schools in the DFW area. This often means literally thousands of kids. So, the announcement is made to hold applause and cheering until the end. As another person mentioned, this becomes a problem when 99% of the folks comply, and then there's that bozo that thinks it applies to everyone else.

Personally, I'd hate to sit through one of these graduations if there was 30 seconds of applause after each one.

But you just pointed out that there is NOT a 30 second applause for each one. It is only a small percentage. It is nearly always only a small percentage. It is nearly always NOT an issue. Why do you assume some worst case scenario?

This is a one time event that is a big deal to some families. Suck it up and bear with it. Bring a book. In my experience, it does not slow the ceremony down. If they wanted it quicker, they could cut out some speeches no one listens to anyway.

If the suerintendant wanted a quiet ceremony, he should have had all the kids file through his office during school hours.

My take.... cheering is not only fine, it is expected. My parents weren't even at my graduation in 1970, and the only people who cheered for me were my brothers and a couple of friends. I am grateful for that, and I cheered loudly at my son's graduation in 2008.

What I have an issue with is noisemakers like cowbells, airhorns, etc., that can be very painful and intrusive to the ears of anyone sitting in the immediate vicinity of the people using them. Nobody should have to have that stuff clanging in their ears, and I wouldn't be opposed to people being made to leave those things in their cars.

Vocal cheering doesn't really interrupt or prolong the graduation ceremony. When my son graduated from Grapevine HS, it was in a mass ceremony involving other high schools in north Tarrant County at a giant auditorium in downtown Dallas. The place was so large, and the crowd so big, that a dozen supporters cheering an individual student from up in the stands didn't really impact the ceremony. But if noise-making objects are loud enough, and used in enough numbers, then I can see how even a large ceremony like my son's could have been negatively impacted.