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Hunting Accident

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 8:56 pm
by kragluver
My heart grieves for this family. I can't imagine anything worse. Lets all be extra careful out there.

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Re: Hunting Accident

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 10:16 pm
by Right2Carry
I don't see how this is even possible. Poor innocent child now resides with Jesus our Saviour!

Re: Hunting Accident

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 6:09 am
by jmra
Right2Carry wrote:I don't see how this is even possible. Poor innocent child now resides with Jesus our Saviour!
:iagree:
Tragic, but how do you aim at prey and not see the child that you end up shooting in the chest?

Re: Hunting Accident

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 10:47 am
by VMI77
Maybe there is some scenario that explains it as other than negligence, but if my father or my wife's father killed my child like this I doubt I could ever forgive him. In the first place, how do you take a child to a hunting blind and not know he left it? What kind of supervision is that? I'd be livid at a grandparent just having lost track of him like that even if nothing else happened.

Re: Hunting Accident

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 11:06 am
by gthaustex
Heartbreaking. Prayers for the family.

Re: Hunting Accident

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 11:13 am
by sugar land dave
I do agree that the family will suffer greatly from this tragic loss. A child should never preceed a parent in death, but it does happen. My prayers for the family.

Re: Hunting Accident

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 9:39 pm
by KramerD
Some of these people are in such a rush to make their little ones expert gun shooters, its sad when this happens.

Re: Hunting Accident

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 12:55 am
by drjoker
I took a friend's child shooting and she asked, "Why aren't you shooting. How come you're only watching me shoot?"

This is why. If you take a child hunting, shooting, or anything else gun related, you need to watch that child like a hawk. You are NOT shooting, NOT hunting, and NOT cleaning your guns. You are ONLY SUPERVISING that child. She tried to muzzle me once when she turned around to ask me a question. Because I was watching her like a hawk, I quickly used the tip of my finger to push away the gun's muzzle so that it wouldn't be pointed at me. Guess what, if I were shooting, too, and not just supervising 100%, she would've probably shot me.

Anytime you take a child, even a child who is an experienced shooter, you need to be supervising 100%. This also goes for newbie adult shooters. When I first taught my wife to shoot, she pointed a gun at me and pulled the trigger repeatedly, "Hey, honey, I'm dry firing. Dont' worry, it's not loaded!" I learned my lesson that time. Since then, I never shoot when I'm with newbies, even adults. I just supervise.

Re: Hunting Accident

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 6:29 am
by jmra
:iagree:

Re: Hunting Accident

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 7:19 am
by Keith B
drjoker wrote:I took a friend's child shooting and she asked, "Why aren't you shooting. How come you're only watching me shoot?"

This is why. If you take a child hunting, shooting, or anything else gun related, you need to watch that child like a hawk. You are NOT shooting, NOT hunting, and NOT cleaning your guns. You are ONLY SUPERVISING that child. She tried to muzzle me once when she turned around to ask me a question. Because I was watching her like a hawk, I quickly used the tip of my finger to push away the gun's muzzle so that it wouldn't be pointed at me. Guess what, if I were shooting, too, and not just supervising 100%, she would've probably shot me.

Anytime you take a child, even a child who is an experienced shooter, you need to be supervising 100%. This also goes for newbie adult shooters. When I first taught my wife to shoot, she pointed a gun at me and pulled the trigger repeatedly, "Hey, honey, I'm dry firing. Dont' worry, it's not loaded!" I learned my lesson that time. Since then, I never shoot when I'm with newbies, even adults. I just supervise.
While I agree with the child being supervised with firearms, in this case it was the Grandfather who didn't properly identify his target before shooting. This is very sad, and unfortunately happens all too often with both children and adults getting shot by someone who fails to know what they are really shooting at.

Re: Hunting Accident

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 8:25 am
by jmra
Keith B wrote:
drjoker wrote:I took a friend's child shooting and she asked, "Why aren't you shooting. How come you're only watching me shoot?"

This is why. If you take a child hunting, shooting, or anything else gun related, you need to watch that child like a hawk. You are NOT shooting, NOT hunting, and NOT cleaning your guns. You are ONLY SUPERVISING that child. She tried to muzzle me once when she turned around to ask me a question. Because I was watching her like a hawk, I quickly used the tip of my finger to push away the gun's muzzle so that it wouldn't be pointed at me. Guess what, if I were shooting, too, and not just supervising 100%, she would've probably shot me.

Anytime you take a child, even a child who is an experienced shooter, you need to be supervising 100%. This also goes for newbie adult shooters. When I first taught my wife to shoot, she pointed a gun at me and pulled the trigger repeatedly, "Hey, honey, I'm dry firing. Dont' worry, it's not loaded!" I learned my lesson that time. Since then, I never shoot when I'm with newbies, even adults. I just supervise.
While I agree with the child being supervised with firearms, in this case it was the Grandfather who didn't properly identify his target before shooting. This is very sad, and unfortunately happens all too often with both children and adults getting shot by someone who fails to know what they are really shooting at.
:iagree:
There were multiple failures that resulted in this tragedy. If only one protocol had been adhered to (proper supervision, proper target acquisition, etc..) this young man would still be alive. I know there is a tendency in these cases to say that nothing you can do would punish the man more than the grief he currently feels, but I simply do not know how he can't be held accountable for such negligence. I'm not even suggesting jail time, but maybe this guy shouldn't hunt for a decade or two.

Re: Hunting Accident

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 9:54 pm
by Texas_Blaze
KramerD wrote:Some of these people are in such a rush to make their little ones expert gun shooters, its sad when this happens.
How do you equate taking your grandson hunting with "trying to make him an expert shooter"?

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