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Careful how you ride those bicycles.....and after you stop

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 11:37 am
by VMI77
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nati ... tml#page=1

[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=111&v=r-3hTWLHUOU[/video]

This is a case where the video doesn't add much to the story.
....he followed Stephens to give him a traffic ticket for not bicycling properly. But he also would acknowledge he was suspicious of Stephens, whom he had not seen in the neighborhood before that morning, according to court records.
It is the description of events Lin will tell and retell. He said Stephens had nothing in either hand, reached toward his back waistband and, Lin thought, raised what looked like a gun, "a dark black object," in his left hand.

Stephens did have something in one of his hands, but it was not a gun, not in his left hand and it had been visible all along: It was his broken cellphone, seen on video as he crossed the road, as he approached his friend's house and in his right hand as he approached the deputy, arms at his side.

Lin later would say he was shocked to see the phone when he reviewed the video recording.
But the Stephens shooting illustrates key findings identified in a joint year-long Palm Beach Post/WPTV NewsChannel 5 investigation analyzing every officer-involved shooting in Palm Beach County and the Treasure Coast since 2000: In roughly one of every four shootings, Palm Beach County deputies fired at unarmed suspects.

Re: Careful how you ride those bicycles.....and after you st

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 12:17 pm
by Jumping Frog
Another case where following a police officer's instructions would likely have resulted in no one being arrested or harmed. :roll:

I've read enough articles from the Force Science Institute to appreciate how quickly things can happen and easily a police officer can misidentify a cell phone or other non-gun object, when a failure to react to the actual gun means getting shot.

Re: Careful how you ride those bicycles.....and after you st

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 1:39 pm
by Abraham
JF,

Communication saves lives.

It the guy being stopped communicates his hand position by asking for permission to move them or simply keeps his hands up, he'll survive.

Re: Careful how you ride those bicycles.....and after you st

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 2:15 pm
by sugar land dave
Abraham wrote:JF,

Communication saves lives.

It the guy being stopped communicates his hand position by asking for permission to move them or simply keeps his hands up, he'll survive.
Oversized pants without a belt: Hands up, pants fall down. Another reason baggy ready to fall pants is not a good idea. Especially during a police stop.