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Gun Control Effort Kills Innocent New York Resident
Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 12:33 pm
by philip964
http://news.yahoo.com/bystander-dies-be ... 33350.html
Undercover police officer in a gun-buy-that-goes-bad shoots and kills an innocent bystander.
Not sure, but it appears he was trying to buy what turned out to be a replica gun.
Re: Gun Control Effort Kills Innocent New York Resident
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:01 pm
by VMI77
http://weaponsman.com/?p=25112
This time, they killed the guy. No, not the guy they were shooting at — he’s in stable condition, and going to recover fully. That’s the guy they should have killed, the guy who held a gun to a cop’s head and later turned and pointed it at him. (The gun turned out to be an Airsoft fake, but was convincing enough you have to agree with the decision to engage the suspect. We have an NYPD official photo of the suspect “gun” below).
But despite firing 11 or 12 rounds from his real gun, the cop only hit armed robber and wannabe cop-killer Alvin Smothers, 36, three times, none in an incapacitating or even solid hit. Two negligently fired rounds struck bystander Felix Kumi, 61, killing him.
What they don’t need to do is make an example of the copper here. The guy was hanging it out, doing one of the riskiest jobs in law enforcement, and while he handled the attempted robbery with notable sang-froid, most people in any large group of trained shooters will revert to their training in combat. That’s what he did, and that’s why a citizen is dead and a nogoodnik is not. Because his training was self-evidently unsatisfactory to his requirements.
The real problem is the department’s mixed-up, tossed-up, never-come-down firearms training and policies that generate these disasters over and over again.
New York Police Department needs to inject some realism in its training, and to lose the unsafe Glock New York Trigger (or NY2 or whatever ultra-heavy trigger they’re specifying now). With a gun like a Glock that has no manual safety and requires a trigger pull for routine maintenance, nothing you do to the trigger is going to prevent a department with 30,000 or 40,000 cops from having the occasional ND. (Hanging those who have NDs from a construction crane in front of One Police Plaza might help, but it will never get you to zero. Remember, they had NDs when they were carrying .38 Specials).
Re: Gun Control Effort Kills Innocent New York Resident
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:04 pm
by Taypo
Man, that's a shock. NYPD has such a sterling record when it comes to shootings. They never hit innocent bystanders...
/sarcasm off