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Lock blades no longer banned in San Antonio

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 8:44 am
by Javier730
Lock blades and switch blades no longer illegal in San Antonio. Police never enforced the lock blade ban but would still arrest for switch blades. Now I can carry my microtech. :woohoo

http://www.ksat.com/news/state-law-void ... -knife-ban

Re: Lock blades no longer banned in San Antonio

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 8:46 am
by Taypo
About time. Not that I spend much time down there, but having to leave my locking knife in the hotel room always seemed ridiculous given the fact I was carrying a pistol.

Re: Lock blades no longer banned in San Antonio

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:06 am
by Abraham
Doesn't state law supersede city ordinances since switch blades are legal in Texas?

Re: Lock blades no longer banned in San Antonio

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:13 am
by joe817
Abraham wrote:Doesn't state law supersede city ordinances since switch blades are legal in Texas?
It does as of today, thanks to HB905 that the Governor signed into law 06/17/2015.

http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/BillLook ... Bill=HB905

Re: Lock blades no longer banned in San Antonio

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:15 am
by JALLEN
Abraham wrote:Doesn't state law supersede city ordinances since switch blades are legal in Texas?
That is the thrust of the article, that SA's ordinance has been superseded as of today by the new state law.

It also reveals the attitude of SA police to have enforced that ordinance "with great discretion."

Re: Lock blades no longer banned in San Antonio

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:33 am
by mojo84
I carried a lock blade knife for many years in San Antonio without realizing it was illegal. Part of the time I had it clipped to my pocket with the clip and end of the knife showing. It was never an issue. However, if I would have been in trouble for some reason, I am confident they would have busted me on it as an add-on.

Re: Lock blades no longer banned in San Antonio

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 11:30 am
by Javier730
mojo84 wrote:I carried a lock blade knife for many years in San Antonio without realizing it was illegal. Part of the time I had it clipped to my pocket with the clip and end of the knife showing. It was never an issue. However, if I would have been in trouble for some reason, I am confident they would have busted me on it as an add-on.
I highly doubt it would of even been an add on unless it was a switch blade. I don't know anyone who was ever detained, arrested or even ticketed for a lockblade.

When I was 15, I was with some kid from down the street in a huge drainage ditch that went along the access road of highway 90, which was pretty much my back yard. The kid was practicing some tricks on his skateboard when a police officer pulled up. He asked what we were doing and the kid responded that he was practicing on his skateboard. The officer asked if we had anything we weren't supposed to and the boy said he had a pocket knife. The officer asked to see it and the kid pulled from his pocket a small lockblade that had like a 1 1/2 blade. The officer said, "If your carrying this to defend yourself, you should get a bigger one.", he handed the knife back and took off.

Switchblades on the other hand would get you a trip to the pokey. I know two people who have been arrested for carrying them.

Re: Lock blades no longer banned in San Antonio

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 1:20 pm
by VMI77
Javier730 wrote:
mojo84 wrote:I carried a lock blade knife for many years in San Antonio without realizing it was illegal. Part of the time I had it clipped to my pocket with the clip and end of the knife showing. It was never an issue. However, if I would have been in trouble for some reason, I am confident they would have busted me on it as an add-on.
I highly doubt it would of even been an add on unless it was a switch blade. I don't know anyone who was ever detained, arrested or even ticketed for a lockblade.

When I was 15, I was with some kid from down the street in a huge drainage ditch that went along the access road of highway 90, which was pretty much my back yard. The kid was practicing some tricks on his skateboard when a police officer pulled up. He asked what we were doing and the kid responded that he was practicing on his skateboard. The officer asked if we had anything we weren't supposed to and the boy said he had a pocket knife. The officer asked to see it and the kid pulled from his pocket a small lockblade that had like a 1 1/2 blade. The officer said, "If your carrying this to defend yourself, you should get a bigger one.", he handed the knife back and took off.

Switchblades on the other hand would get you a trip to the pokey. I know two people who have been arrested for carrying them.
Can you put the timing of that in perspective? That's like what I would have expected back when I was 15.....not so sure what would happen today.

Re: Lock blades no longer banned in San Antonio

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 1:33 pm
by Javier730
VMI77 wrote:
Javier730 wrote:
mojo84 wrote:I carried a lock blade knife for many years in San Antonio without realizing it was illegal. Part of the time I had it clipped to my pocket with the clip and end of the knife showing. It was never an issue. However, if I would have been in trouble for some reason, I am confident they would have busted me on it as an add-on.
I highly doubt it would of even been an add on unless it was a switch blade. I don't know anyone who was ever detained, arrested or even ticketed for a lockblade.

When I was 15, I was with some kid from down the street in a huge drainage ditch that went along the access road of highway 90, which was pretty much my back yard. The kid was practicing some tricks on his skateboard when a police officer pulled up. He asked what we were doing and the kid responded that he was practicing on his skateboard. The officer asked if we had anything we weren't supposed to and the boy said he had a pocket knife. The officer asked to see it and the kid pulled from his pocket a small lockblade that had like a 1 1/2 blade. The officer said, "If your carrying this to defend yourself, you should get a bigger one.", he handed the knife back and took off.

Switchblades on the other hand would get you a trip to the pokey. I know two people who have been arrested for carrying them.
Can you put the timing of that in perspective? That's like what I would have expected back when I was 15.....not so sure what would happen today.
Thinking back it was kind of odd. He'll even then I thought it was odd. This was 11 years ago.

Around the same time. I was shooting bb gun and I had that "confiscated" and was given a ticket after being taken home. There was a large amount of nothing so I don't see what the problem was. The officer probably took it home and gave it to his son.

Re: Lock blades no longer banned in San Antonio

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 4:49 pm
by VMI77
Javier730 wrote:
VMI77 wrote:
Javier730 wrote:
mojo84 wrote:I carried a lock blade knife for many years in San Antonio without realizing it was illegal. Part of the time I had it clipped to my pocket with the clip and end of the knife showing. It was never an issue. However, if I would have been in trouble for some reason, I am confident they would have busted me on it as an add-on.
I highly doubt it would of even been an add on unless it was a switch blade. I don't know anyone who was ever detained, arrested or even ticketed for a lockblade.

When I was 15, I was with some kid from down the street in a huge drainage ditch that went along the access road of highway 90, which was pretty much my back yard. The kid was practicing some tricks on his skateboard when a police officer pulled up. He asked what we were doing and the kid responded that he was practicing on his skateboard. The officer asked if we had anything we weren't supposed to and the boy said he had a pocket knife. The officer asked to see it and the kid pulled from his pocket a small lockblade that had like a 1 1/2 blade. The officer said, "If your carrying this to defend yourself, you should get a bigger one.", he handed the knife back and took off.

Switchblades on the other hand would get you a trip to the pokey. I know two people who have been arrested for carrying them.
Can you put the timing of that in perspective? That's like what I would have expected back when I was 15.....not so sure what would happen today.
Thinking back it was kind of odd. He'll even then I thought it was odd. This was 11 years ago.

Around the same time. I was shooting bb gun and I had that "confiscated" and was given a ticket after being taken home. There was a large amount of nothing so I don't see what the problem was. The officer probably took it home and gave it to his son.
Back when I was really young, even the cops where we lived in Commiefornia had an attitude like that. In fact, back then, my older brother beat up the high school bully, and the school principle drove him home so the bullies' friends couldn't jump him, and told my parents how proud they were of him for standing up to a bully. My how times have changed.

Re: Lock blades no longer banned in San Antonio

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2015 5:00 pm
by E.Marquez
JALLEN wrote:
Abraham wrote:Doesn't state law supersede city ordinances since switch blades are legal in Texas?
That is the thrust of the article, that SA's ordinance has been superseded as of today by the new state law.

It also reveals the attitude of SA police to have enforced that ordinance "with great discretion."
I was asked once while at the riverwalk to remove the Benchmade auto opener from the view (Sir, it is a SA ordinance violation to have that knife, but if you would just slip it into the pocket out of view, we'd be ok with that" All that was said in a friendly manner and a smile.

I did so, thanked them. Then mentioned it was a bit silly I can legally have a compact .45 cal and two mags on my hip concealed, but SA governmental leadership is concerned I have a knife.

Re: Lock blades no longer banned in San Antonio

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2015 5:40 pm
by SawdustBytes
E.Marquez wrote: I was asked once while at the riverwalk to remove the Benchmade auto opener from the view (Sir, it is a SA ordinance violation to have that knife, but if you would just slip it into the pocket out of view, we'd be ok with that" All that was said in a friendly manner and a smile.

I did so, thanked them. Then mentioned it was a bit silly I can legally have a compact .45 cal and two mags on my hip concealed, but SA governmental leadership is concerned I have a knife.

Back in the "Old Days", aka 1980s, I carried a small pocket knife. During the first of many trips to Japan we were flying to one of the southern islands and the knife set off the metal detector. A very polite officer apologized for having to take it. (It was sealed in an envelope, given to the captain, and returned at the end of the flight.) Then he said that on the return flight I should put the knife in my shirt pocket. "It will still set off the alarm but when you are searched it will not be found because the Japanese do not carry weapons in their shirt pockets."

Randy, KB5AI

Re: Lock blades no longer banned in San Antonio

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2015 12:39 am
by SA_Steve
Boarding the plane in Italy back in 1978 the Italian policeman wanted to confiscate my big pocket knife. I made a loud fuss and he relented. Italians do a lot of loud fussing as part of normal communication.

Re: Lock blades no longer banned in San Antonio

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2015 2:45 pm
by OldCurlyWolf
About 17 years ago I left my buck 110 with the County Security guard at the Bexar County Courthouse while I was at the Clerk's office doing research. Nothing was said about Lock Blades being illegal in San Antonio.

Re: Lock blades no longer banned in San Antonio

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2015 8:25 pm
by Javier730
OldCurlyWolf wrote:About 17 years ago I left my buck 110 with the County Security guard at the Bexar County Courthouse while I was at the Clerk's office doing research. Nothing was said about Lock Blades being illegal in San Antonio.
Thats probably because county LEOs like sheriff deputies and constables don't enforce municipal laws. In San Antonio there is a cell phone ban while driving that went into effect this year and only the city police enforce it.