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Cops show up at wrong house, dog dead, cop shot by friendly fire and homeowner shot by cops. It's a shame more fuel is being added to the simmering situation.

http://www.11alive.com/story/news/local ... /71492826/

I dunno that this one is simmering. It's certainly unfortunate. Dead dog. LEO shot. Home owner shot.
Apparently the LEOs were given a description of the house, not an address, so that's part of it.
LEO accounts are open rear door (suspicious) and that they identified themselves. It'd be nice for public accountability if that's backed by a camera.

I don't consider this the same as a no-knock raid or a mistake against a valid address. Mojo is probably right, for the people who are looking for inflammatory issues - this may be one.

No indication of charges against the home owner.

As a home owner, if a bad guy enters your back door and says "police" - that's a bad spot to be in...

That's a whole bunch of inexcusable mistakes all happening at once right there. Im hesitant to read anything into it, but I have some ethnic suspicions about the occupants of the house, the dog and the responding officers. Either way, this is on the cops.

Looks like the story has been updated. The homeowner didn't fire, and the officer was shot by another officer.

What's that rule? Always be sure of your target?

The whole story smells.

If the dog has time to come after the officer, doesn't that mean the intruder has already been neutralized?

Maybe that's the signal that things aren't as they seem. Back out hollering, "Sorry to bother you!" and close the door before things get worse!

Taypo wrote:Either way, this is on the cops.

Why? They responded to a house that matched the description. They had cause to investigate. They went in an open back door (per their account). Dog shootings aren't uncommon in these types of situations.... It's how the home owner got shot that is under speculation. I wouldn't lay that on either parties feet until I knew more... 100 different ways this could have gotten sideways.

I agree that it doesn't pass the smell test, but I can't definitively say one way or another. Good thing the home owner (and the officer) lived and can provide info on what happened.

I don't think this is nearly as egregious as the "no knock" SWAT raids where they are kicking in doors for drug offenses. They're basically risking lives in order to have a better chance at evidence. It's way out of bounds on the risk/rewards ratio. It's not a good deal for the LEOs and it's not a good deal for the public in general..

You're right. They went into the wrong house, shot the wrong dog, the wrong homeowner and each other but its not their fault.

Taypo wrote:You're right. They went into the wrong house, shot the wrong dog, the wrong homeowner and each other but its not their fault.

That isn't what he said or, with the knowledge we have so far, a complete representation of what happened.

Taypo wrote:You're right. They went into the wrong house, shot the wrong dog, the wrong homeowner and each other but its not their fault.

Did they shoot a home owner that had fired at them first? Just wondering. I think you know more about this than I do as fault has been established. My problem is that I don't know the answers to those questions.

The article I read said the door was unlocked, not open. If that is justification for shooting a homeowner, I'm past due to be shot. Our back door is always unlocked until we go to bed.

Going to the wrong house and shooting it out with the homeowner and each other is inexecusable. I didn't see any definitive reports that the homeowner fired a shot. It appears the only shots fired were by the keystone cops.

Sending officers to a gray house? Come on.

mojo84 wrote:The article I read said the door was unlocked, not open. If that is justification for shooting a homeowner, I'm past due to be shot. Our back door is always unlocked until we go to bed.

Going to the wrong house and shooting it out with the homeowner and each other is inexecusable. I didn't see any definitive reports that the homeowner fired a shot. It appears the only shots fired were by the keystone cops.

If that homeowner fired a shot, then I can at least find some justification for what happened. I haven't found anything to indicate it either. It feels very much like Super Troopers to me.

That won't stop the twisting, spinning and justifying.

Another reason we don't want cops dispensing street side justice by playing judge, jury and executioner. They don't always make good judgements.

mojo84 wrote:That won't stop the twisting, spinning and justifying.

Another reason we don't want cops dispensing street side justice by playing judge, jury and executioner. They don't always may good judgements.

I see what you did there

Taypo wrote:

mojo84 wrote:That won't stop the twisting, spinning and justifying.

Another reason we don't want cops dispensing street side justice by playing judge, jury and executioner. They don't always may good judgements.

I see what you did there

Just having a little fun.