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Killing pickup trucks with cruise missiles....an analysis of the US air strikes in Syria
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2015 4:04 pm
by VMI77
http://weaponsman.com/?p=27683#comments
.....here’s the anatomy of a strike, in this case a September 2014 British Tornado IDS strike against a Ford pickup. First, we lock the target, after making it obvious enough what’s up that the jihadi driver parks the truck and runs for cover.
Next: FOOM. Couldn’t happen to a nicer truck, eh?
Problem is, we just spent somewhere between a half million and a million, and risked at least four aircrew lives, to engage an enemy that wouldn’t exist absent the power vacuum created by us bugging out, and to blow the living daylights out of a (probably empty) $25k truck.
And now we’re running low on the essential ingredients of FOOM.
Nobody has added up the cost. Some of the trucks are being busted by $1 million Tomahawk cruise missiles. And having run out of smarts about bombing, we’re now running out of smart bombs:
back to our CNN story:
The official told CNN that the Air Force has requested additional funding for Hellfire missiles and is developing plans to ramp up weapons production to replenish its stocks more quickly. But replenishing that stock can take “up to four years from time of expenditure to asset resupply,” the official said.
From the comments:
PBAR
December 10, 2015 at 12:34
We are forced to use precision guided munitions by the overly restrictive rules of engagement foisted on CENTCOM by this Administration. When I was deployed over there recently, I talked to some Marine fighter pilots who told us they had been dropping guided bombs on dirt. Yes, dirt, er, I mean, “vehicle revetments” or “assembly areas”, which are the euphemism du jour over there now. Sounds suspiciously like suspected truck parks in the jungle from Vietnam, doesn’t it? The pilots certainly weren’t happy about it and bitterly complained of seeing ISIS guys in their targeting pods nearly every sortie that they weren’t allowed to attack because of collateral damage concerns.
Re: Killing pickup trucks with cruise missiles....an analysis of the US air strikes in Syria
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2015 4:12 pm
by jmorris
We need to develop a cheap drone system that would fly up to they back of the truck, attach a JATO engine, and then light it off.
Re: Killing pickup trucks with cruise missiles....an analysis of the US air strikes in Syria
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2015 6:32 pm
by jb2012
Well luckily they can save a few dollars by leaving the ford trucks alone. They'll implode themselves. I can say this because I own one and wished I didn't.
Re: Killing pickup trucks with cruise missiles....an analysis of the US air strikes in Syria
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2015 6:40 pm
by Jago668
They just need to start using bi-planes again, and let the pilots fly over and drop hand grenades in.
Re: Killing pickup trucks with cruise missiles....an analysis of the US air strikes in Syria
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2015 9:45 am
by VMI77
Jago668 wrote:They just need to start using bi-planes again, and let the pilots fly over and drop hand grenades in.
Re: Killing pickup trucks with cruise missiles....an analysis of the US air strikes in Syria
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2015 9:51 am
by The Annoyed Man
One of these would take care of the truck AND the driver.........and all of his friends......as long as we're not worrying about cost:
Re: Killing pickup trucks with cruise missiles....an analysis of the US air strikes in Syria
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2015 3:41 pm
by Jago668
VMI77 wrote:Jago668 wrote:They just need to start using bi-planes again, and let the pilots fly over and drop hand grenades in.
Was being facetious.
About all you can do to cut down costs really is to strafe them. This is why I never understood the push to get rid of the warthog. They don't even need the depleted uranium, just regular lead would work for that kind of stuff. An AC-130 would work too, just one artillery round and done.
Re: Killing pickup trucks with cruise missiles....an analysis of the US air strikes in Syria
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2015 4:03 pm
by VMI77
Jago668 wrote:VMI77 wrote:Jago668 wrote:They just need to start using bi-planes again, and let the pilots fly over and drop hand grenades in.
Was being facetious.
That's what I was hoping. I'd think strafing would be more fun too, as these videos attest:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWyz8PEAp5E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYTaddev6KQ
But we were big meanies back then.....we didn't give the Germans and Japanese 45 minutes to get away before we shot them up like we do with ISIS.
Re: Killing pickup trucks with cruise missiles....an analysis of the US air strikes in Syria
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2015 9:50 pm
by Beiruty
You do not need a $2,000,000 cruise missile.
You need this:
https://youtu.be/hyaIrhGrCzo
or even the smaller Pyros.
https://youtu.be/-9v-XGwMAZU
Re: Killing pickup trucks with cruise missiles....an analysis of the US air strikes in Syria
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 7:25 am
by Pawpaw
Re: Killing pickup trucks with cruise missiles....an analysis of the US air strikes in Syria
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 10:09 am
by Beiruty
What is the opera song in the vulcan movie? Any lyrics?
Re: Killing pickup trucks with cruise missiles....an analysis of the US air strikes in Syria
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 1:01 pm
by Pawpaw
Beiruty wrote:What is the opera song in the vulcan movie? Any lyrics?
No clue.
C'mon Beiruty! We've shot skeet together a couple of times. Did I strike you as the kind of guy that listens to opera?
I listen to BOTH kinds of music... country AND western.
Re: Killing pickup trucks with cruise missiles....an analysis of the US air strikes in Syria
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 2:35 pm
by jrs_diesel
Beiruty wrote:What is the opera song in the vulcan movie? Any lyrics?
O Fortuna, by Carmina Burana
I like the Vulcan, but am more partial to the 30mm Avenger on the A-10.
Also, the AC-130 Gunship would be very effective against these kind of targets.
Re: Killing pickup trucks with cruise missiles....an analysis of the US air strikes in Syria
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 2:36 pm
by Beiruty
Pawpaw wrote:Beiruty wrote:What is the opera song in the vulcan movie? Any lyrics?
No clue.
C'mon Beiruty! We've shot skeet together a couple of times. Did I strike you as the kind of guy that listens to opera?
I listen to BOTH kinds of music... ......
https://youtu.be/AKC8pSFg1Vw