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Louisiana #10 and Texas #18, now I know why I ended up Texas, I had to help my neighbors out.

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I find it humorous that the story uses the term "registered firearms". I seriously doubt they have any clue how many really are in Texas, I would bet that most members of this forum have AT LEAST 12.8 firearms themselves!

That article is retarded. They're getting their data from the publically-released summary of the ATF's NFRTR, which:

1) Only contains NFA firearms
2) Has a large number of firearms owned by state and local governments.

longhorn86 wrote:I find it humorous that the story uses the term "registered firearms".

Their use of that term is accurate, because the NFRTR only includes registered NFA-regulated firearms. But they're trying to represent the data to be something it's not.

Maybe I live under a rock, but what are the antis referring to when they say "registered firearms"? You see it frequently. None of mine are "registered."

EDIT - I didn't think about NFA guns.

That article is a complete train wreck. There are over a million CCP holders in Florida, but apparently there are less than 200,000 guns in the state.

The District of Columbia is one of the most heavily armed states? Odd, that.

And Texas has a "whopping" 12.8 guns per 1,000 residents? That's not "whopping," that's "measly."

The introduction says something about how America is reeling from yet another mass shooting. No bias there, and I'm sure the first picture that came up, of a trailer-trash bedroom full of guns in Kansas, was just a random image.

The image for Alaska is pretty disappointing, too.

I have a hard time putting any faith in an article that talks about "registered firearms" in Texas. Yes, he used the same phrase for all the states, but it still tells me the article was written by someone clueless.

Texas comes in at number 18, with 12.8 guns for every 1,000 residents. That's a whopping 337,309 registered firearms among 26,448,193 people.

And as TVegas mentioned, the numbers have to be way off. Don't we have about 850,000 CHLs now, but only 337,309 firearms?

Didn't it take the Heller decision just a few years ago to force DC to allow having a firearm at all, including at home?

The District of Columbia comes in at number two in the nation, with 66.4 guns for every 1,000 residents. That's 42,897 registered firearms dispersed among only 646,449 people.

Well, DC is number two in my book too, but that has nothing to do with firearms.

Pawpaw wrote:I have a hard time putting any faith in an article that talks about "registered firearms" in Texas. Yes, he used the same phrase for all the states, but it still tells me the article was written by someone clueless.

Texas comes in at number 18, with 12.8 guns for every 1,000 residents. That's a whopping 337,309 registered firearms among 26,448,193 people.

And as TVegas mentioned, the numbers have to be way off. Don't we have about 850,000 CHLs now, but only 337,309 firearms?

Didn't it take the Heller decision just a few years ago to force DC to allow having a firearm at all, including at home?

The District of Columbia comes in at number two in the nation, with 66.4 guns for every 1,000 residents. That's 42,897 registered firearms dispersed among only 646,449 people.

Well, DC is number two in my book too, but that has nothing to do with firearms.

They ARE talking about registered firearms, including in Texas, because they are using NFRTR for their data. This is the Federal registry for all firearms under the scope of the National Firearms Act of 1934. That would be: Machineguns, Short Barreled Shotguns, Short Barreled Rifles, Any-Other-Weapons (covered by NFA), Silencers, and Destructive Devices. The article completely misses the fact that the registry represents only those items covered under the NFA, not the other 250 million (title 1) firearms.

jed wrote:Maybe I live under a rock, but what are the antis referring to when they say "registered firearms"? You see it frequently. None of mine are "registered."

EDIT - I didn't think about NFA guns.

Because you live in Texas. In Illinois for example,you have to have a Firearm Owner Identification Card to purchase a firearm and when you do the firearm is registered to you ID. I know at least one state requires you obtain a permit for each firearm but I don't remember which.

ScottDLS wrote:They ARE talking about registered firearms, including in Texas, because they are using NFRTR for their data. This is the Federal registry for all firearms under the scope of the National Firearms Act of 1934. That would be: Machineguns, Short Barreled Shotguns, Short Barreled Rifles, Any-Other-Weapons (covered by NFA), Silencers, and Destructive Devices. The article completely misses the fact that the registry represents only those items covered under the NFA, not the other 250 million (title 1) firearms.

That thought crossed my mind and you're right. It's there on the first page.

Still, DC has 42,897 NFA items? I still find that hard to believe.

jmorris wrote:

jed wrote:Maybe I live under a rock, but what are the antis referring to when they say "registered firearms"? You see it frequently. None of mine are "registered."

EDIT - I didn't think about NFA guns.

Because you live in Texas. In Illinois for example,you have to have a Firearm Owner Identification Card to purchase a firearm and when you do the firearm is registered to you ID. I know at least one state requires you obtain a permit for each firearm but I don't remember which.

I would be homeless before I lived in a state like that.

In DC all legal firearms are registered.

Pawpaw wrote:

ScottDLS wrote:They ARE talking about registered firearms, including in Texas, because they are using NFRTR for their data. This is the Federal registry for all firearms under the scope of the National Firearms Act of 1934. That would be: Machineguns, Short Barreled Shotguns, Short Barreled Rifles, Any-Other-Weapons (covered by NFA), Silencers, and Destructive Devices. The article completely misses the fact that the registry represents only those items covered under the NFA, not the other 250 million (title 1) firearms.

That thought crossed my mind and you're right. It's there on the first page.

Still, DC has 42,897 NFA items? I still find that hard to believe.

The registry may include police, military, and maybe private security as well.

TVegas wrote: The registry may include police, military, and maybe private security as well.

The NFRTR doesn't include any guns owned by the federal government (whether military or federal LE), nor guns owned by the National Guard. It does include all legal NFA-regulated arms owned by anyone else, whether private citizens, companies, or state or local governments.

CleverNickname wrote:

TVegas wrote: The registry may include police, military, and maybe private security as well.

The NFRTR doesn't include any guns owned by the federal government (whether military or federal LE), nor guns owned by the National Guard. It does include all legal NFA-regulated arms owned by anyone else, whether private citizens, companies, or state or local governments.

Perhaps the Capitol police are not considered federal under the NFRTR. I'm sure they have quite a few NFA items.