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.357 Sig Ammo

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 10:37 pm
by razoraggie
I carry a Glock 31 in .357 Sig. I LOVE the round and the power but am having the hardest time finding range ammo. All of the "box store" retailers either don't carry it or only have in in JHP. I'm a little skiddish about reloads from some one that I do not know personally and I am getting a little tired of paying $25 per box to go shoot. Any ideas or places that anyone is aware of in the southern areas of Harris County that will have this or anyone that knows of a RELIABLE reloader will help me tremendously. Thanx in advance.

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 10:42 pm
by T3hK1w1
.357 SIG=expensive-period :cry:

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 11:00 pm
by Walkin' Jack
Yes it IS very expensive. I have the G-32 barrel for my G-23 and have had it for a couple of years. I only have about 500 rounds of .357sig through it because of the cost.

It is not a plinker. I have carried the 23 with the 32 barrel in it but not often. The truth is that the .357sig ammo is not a big seller in FMJ. Premium JHP defensive rounds are available just about all over.

For most folks going to the range and popping of 100 rounds of .357sig is just not practical.

Edit to add: I've been led to believe that reloading the .357sig is not recommended becaause of the fact that it is a necked down shell casing. Not sure if that's true or if it is true, WHY it's true. I'm sure someone in here can 'splain it to us......

Re: .357 Sig Ammo

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 7:10 am
by Liberty
razoraggie wrote:I carry a Glock 31 in .357 Sig. I LOVE the round and the power but am having the hardest time finding range ammo. All of the "box store" retailers either don't carry it or only have in in JHP. I'm a little skiddish about reloads from some one that I do not know personally and I am getting a little tired of paying $25 per box to go shoot. Any ideas or places that anyone is aware of in the southern areas of Harris County that will have this or anyone that knows of a RELIABLE reloader will help me tremendously. Thanx in advance.
I know you asked about Harris County, but T's in Texas City has a an excellent reputation as a reloader and isn't that far away.

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 7:40 am
by Mike1951
Liberty wrote:I know you asked about Harris County, but T's in Texas City has a an excellent reputation as a reloader and isn't that far away.
Roy and Pat had told me that they had sold out some time back and were retiring.

Then I didn't see T's set up at the last Pasadena show. Not sure if that means that it's official.

No reason to think the new owner(s) won't continue.

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 11:17 am
by Tom
Walkin' Jack wrote: Edit to add: I've been led to believe that reloading the .357sig is not recommended becaause of the fact that it is a necked down shell casing. Not sure if that's true or if it is true, WHY it's true. I'm sure someone in here can 'splain it to us......
Walkin' Jack,

It took me a while and a lot of reading about other folks experiences to get it right. The clincher for me
was the need to trim to avoid crushing cases. I later picked up a Lee crimp die and that solved
a seating/crimping issue.
Once past all of the above it loads just like any other bottle neck case. I have been playing around
with some light bullets (88gr and 95gr) to make it more of a plinker and that has turned out really well.
So, IMO, if there are secrets to handloading this round it is trimming and getting the crimp right.
After that it is just another round.

Kind Regards,

Tom

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 12:35 pm
by gregthehand
I also reload for the .357 Sig. It's not that hard at all and since you can buy bullets that are for 9mm it's actually cheaper to shoot my .357 sig than it is my .40 S&W or my .45 ACPs! However having to take the extra steps to reload a necked case is a bit of a hassle.

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 12:53 pm
by OverEasy
razoraggie, http://www.ammoman.com has Speer Lawman or Federal American Eagle both 124gr. fmj for $269/1000 rounds. That is delivered to your door, no sales tax. It works out to $13.45 per box of 50. I have bought from ammoman before and it was no problem. The last 1000 rds. of 357SIG Speer Lawman I bought from him was $209/1000 in 2006.
I have a Glock33 and a SIG P229 both chambered in 357SIG. I also have factory 40 S&W barrels for both guns and aftermarket 9mm barrels. I used the 40 S&W and 9mm for practice(cheaper).
FYIW: The Wal-Mart I go to has 357SIG WWB for $18 something/50rds.
The 9mm WWB is $7.99/50 rds. Blazer Brass 40 S&W is $9.57/50 rds. YES the BB 40S&W is cheaper than the WWB 9mm!! Academy has the Monarch brass 9mm for $6.99/50 rds.
You might find someone or a few people to split a 1000 rounds from ammoman if you don't want it all for yourself.
Regards, OE

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 4:39 pm
by razoraggie
THANX Liberty and Over Easy!!!


I'll check it out. Thanks to all for your replies. I know that the .357 Sig is expensive, but it's the round and capacity I like. The round has the power I want and the ability to carry a lot of it. I hope the "rumor" about T's is not true. I go to Texas City Municipal often, but T's hasn't had .357 Sig for a while. I guess I could invest in the .40 barrel for the heck of it, but the "feel" is much different. What can I say....I like the POP.

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 5:54 pm
by Greybeard
Brother has the Glock 33 for years, so I'm always keeping eye open for "bargains" on 357Sig practice ammo. And just about decided there ain't any such animal - locally anyway. Several years ago, I found some at Cheaper Than Dirt showroom in FW for about $10 per box. Best I've found lately, even at gun shows is $16 to $20. That .40 conversion barrel (or reloading set up) lookin' better all the time ...

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 8:52 am
by HankB
Walkin' Jack wrote: . . . I've been led to believe that reloading the .357sig is not recommended becaause of the fact that it is a necked down shell casing. Not sure if that's true or if it is true, WHY it's true. I'm sure someone in here can 'splain it to us......
Being a bottle-necked case, it requires a bit of attention to headspace . . . plus, the short neck shouldn't be over-expanded, or else you might experience bullet set-back which can push pressures up. (A heavier crimp will not compensate for a lack of neck tension.)

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 5:35 pm
by Operators Edge
I to have a Glock .357 Sig I carry. As a result I stock .357 Sig FMJ. I have um lets see, 200 rnds as of now at 17.99 a box. This is new factory Fiocchi FMJ. Ammo as of late has been acting like Gold on the stock market as far as prices go! lol.....

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 11:32 am
by casingpoint
Anybody know what happened to Texas Ammo Company, Conroe, TX?