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I missed a 06 and 07 signs almost all weekend
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 7:48 am
by Richbirdhunter
My daughter plays soccer here in Dallas and we traveled to San Antonio this weekend for a tournament, they posted both signs on the outside fence as you pull into the fields. We played 2 games Saturday and 2 games Sunday, it wasn't until second game Sunday that I noticed the sign.
It's the first time I've ever seen an outside area posted.
Re: I missed a 06 and 07 signs almost all weekend
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 8:41 am
by Breny414
We're the games a scholastic event or are they club teams?
Re: I missed a 06 and 07 signs almost all weekend
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 9:13 am
by jmra
Also matters who owns the fields. If owned by the city 30.06 and .07 unenforceable.
Re: I missed a 06 and 07 signs almost all weekend
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 9:56 am
by Richbirdhunter
Breny414 wrote:We're the games a scholastic event or are they club teams?
All club teams raising money for diabetes
Re: I missed a 06 and 07 signs almost all weekend
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 9:56 am
by Richbirdhunter
jmra wrote:Also matters who owns the fields. If owned by the city 30.06 and .07 unenforceable.
I'm not sure
Re: I missed a 06 and 07 signs almost all weekend
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 12:36 pm
by 3dfxMM
Which fields were they playing at?
Re: I missed a 06 and 07 signs almost all weekend
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 12:47 pm
by Richbirdhunter
3dfxMM wrote:Which fields were they playing at?
QVTC 29064 Bulverde Road San Antonio, TX 78260
Re: I missed a 06 and 07 signs almost all weekend
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 1:14 pm
by Papa_Tiger
Re: I missed a 06 and 07 signs almost all weekend
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 1:26 pm
by Soccerdad1995
This leads to a question in my mind.
The requirement is to post the signs conspicuously and with a letter height of at least 1 inch. There is no maximum letter height per the statute. To me, the intent of the statute is clear. They want to ensure that the signs are clearly posted to avoid any confusion and to prevent an inadvertent mistake.
If the signs are posted in a place where a person normally entering would be travelling faster than a walking pace, and would be distracted by driving (which is more distracting than walking), then wouldn't a reasonable person assume that they should make the sign a little bigger than they would for say the door of a building in order to ensure that they are complying with both the letter and the spirit of the law?
Probably won't help you beat the "ride", or the possibility of a small fine, but it would be interesting to see how this played out in court.
Re: I missed a 06 and 07 signs almost all weekend
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 1:35 pm
by chamberc
Soccerdad1995 wrote:This leads to a question in my mind.
The requirement is to post the signs conspicuously and with a letter height of at least 1 inch. There is no maximum letter height per the statute. To me, the intent of the statute is clear. They want to ensure that the signs are clearly posted to avoid any confusion and to prevent an inadvertent mistake.
If the signs are posted in a place where a person normally entering would be travelling faster than a walking pace, and would be distracted by driving (which is more distracting than walking), then wouldn't a reasonable person assume that they should make the sign a little bigger than they would for say the door of a building in order to ensure that they are complying with both the letter and the spirit of the law?
Probably won't help you beat the "ride", or the possibility of a small fine, but it would be interesting to see how this played out in court.
Letting it play out in court would be the only way to know, as you say. Sad, but the definition of conspicuous isn't clearly defined.
Re: I missed a 06 and 07 signs almost all weekend
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 3:00 pm
by Soccerdad1995
chamberc wrote:Soccerdad1995 wrote:This leads to a question in my mind.
The requirement is to post the signs conspicuously and with a letter height of at least 1 inch. There is no maximum letter height per the statute. To me, the intent of the statute is clear. They want to ensure that the signs are clearly posted to avoid any confusion and to prevent an inadvertent mistake.
If the signs are posted in a place where a person normally entering would be travelling faster than a walking pace, and would be distracted by driving (which is more distracting than walking), then wouldn't a reasonable person assume that they should make the sign a little bigger than they would for say the door of a building in order to ensure that they are complying with both the letter and the spirit of the law?
Probably won't help you beat the "ride", or the possibility of a small fine, but it would be interesting to see how this played out in court.
Letting it play out in court would be the only way to know, as you say. Sad, but the definition of conspicuous isn't clearly defined.
Now that the penalty is lower, maybe someone will be more willing to test this.
Re: I missed a 06 and 07 signs almost all weekend
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 4:33 pm
by Richbirdhunter
I wasn't looking for signs outside, that's my mistake. We were new to the area and I was more worried about being on time and finding the team. It never crossed my mind to think an outdoor area was posted.