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Hey guys, just found this forum from searching while over thinking everything.

Wondering if I screwed up. I applied for a Texas LTC and although I've already submitted the app I have yet to complete submitting all the requirements such as the CHL 100 submission and getting fingerprints done.

I got to thinking, although I am probably sure its clear as day for a lawyer the mental question is confusing for me, or at least it is now after reading and researching further and overthinking this. It was clear to me before I submitted the app but not now, lol.

I take a daily med for anxiety. I get it from my GP and have for years now. When I read through the LTC requirements I easily decided that didn't apply to me because I don't have a disorder that causes me to lack the judgment and ability to secure firearms and all that. Also according to the section in the law, I don't have schitzo (sp) or bi polar or any of the listed mental issues for disqualification. I am golden I think according to that section of the law.

So anyway I think I am all good to go. While doing the application it ask the mental treatment question. I go ahead and click yes to see what it has on there. Then it ask for hospitalization information and I think about adjudication of mental issues, have I never been treated for metal disorder and been hospitalized or been hospitalized at all for a mental issue is the way I read it. I read it as that doesn't apply to me because I've never been adjudicated mentally defective, I've never been hospitalized and I don't see a physician of any kind for my anxiety. I do get my script for anxiety but on my regular visits to the doc its all about physical ailments and we really don't discuss the anxiety med other than the nurse asking if I am still taking it when confirming my list of meds.

Anyway, I started over thinking things and doing some research which leads me to finding this site.

I do not want to falsify anything or ever do anything illegal. Did I make a mistake on my app by selecting no? I had rather not finish the process and loose $140 than finish everything up and let the app be processed and be a liar or falsify information. I positively felt when filling out the app that I didn't not lie or falsify but all this Internet searching is making me question myself. The consensus I get from the Internet (I know can't believe everything on the net and that is why I am on here asking the gurus) is its ok. If something is found I might have to get a letter from my doc because they would either deny the app or ask for more info for the medical board. For me the biggest concern is I never want to break the law.

Now I've purchased a number of guns over the years and even a number of them over the that past year and even within the last three months. No problems and the checks are always quick. I would never want to jeopardize my ability to go hunting or buy a gun or legal gun ownership.

Seems simpler after researching to just apply for a non resident app in another state where the laws are very clear instead of all this confusion. Those states ask if you've ever been adjudicated mentally defective and its real clear law wise. If I do that I don't plan on open carrying a sidearm but wonder if you can open carry in Texas with a concealed license from another state. Couldn't find that anywhere. Situation I do see open carrying is out hiking, camping or just walking in one of our many national forest where it might make a little more sense to me.

Asked a CHL instructor about this and of course they aren't a lawyer nor do they claim to be and they can't give legal advice. His comment was that he didn't think it would be a problem as he knows people that have depression or anxiety and they had no trouble getting theirs. I did not ask him though how they answered the question or how one should though as it was well before I did the app.

Sorry for the long post and all the overthinking. Hoping some of you guys could give me a idea about all this and trying to put my mind at ease that I didn't do wrong.

Thanks for any help or steering me in the right direction.

There have been a lot of questions like this recently
You disclosed so you're fine either way, it's possible the dps may ask for more info
The way I was told is that it's only a problem if you are required to be under a doctors care and required to take medication

Welcome to the forum.
I am not sure why, but similar questions have been popping up recently.
I think that you are over analyzing the situation.
IMO as long as you truthfully and completely answered all of the questions on your application you are fine.
That is really all you can do.

Thanks guys, I appreciate any help I can get.

Yea I know I answered all the questions honestly and to the best of my ability but I am wondering if I still did wrong as I DID NOT select "YES" to the questions about being treated for mental issue because I did not think they applied to me based on the criteria.

I did find one post where one person wrote that if you are on a RX for a mental disorder (in my case paxil for anxiety) then that constitutes that one is being treated and therefore must be disclosed. That was one person and not what the consensus was though.

My main thing is I don't want to have done something illegal for something I can be arrested for like it makes it sound when you electronically sign the app.

I know just because I thought confidently I answered everything correct, doesn't necessarily mean I did and sounds like you can be held criminally responsible, lol.

If I signed a statement that I answered everything truthfully "to the best of my ability" like a lot of forms do I wouldn't have even posted the question, lol, just want to d what right and not go to jail.

I do very much appreciate all the warm welcomes and assistance!

Anyone know if I can open carry in Texas with another states non-resident concealed license?

So I guess the question is since I answered NO to the mental health questions did I answer that question truthfully? I thought for sure when I filled it out I did. Now I am not so sure is really what the main question is all about. Did I or did I not answer the question truthfully.

Again, guys I really apologize for the long questions. I just don't want to submit something that purges me but I'd really prefer a Texas LTC instead of another states CCW.

rentz wrote:There have been a lot of questions like this recently
You disclosed so you're fine either way, it's possible the dps may ask for more info
The way I was told is that it's only a problem if you are required to be under a doctors care and required to take medication

Thanks very much for your response but I answered no on the mental part because I do not believe it applied too me or my condition so one may interpret that as I did not disclose the info.

Also I am not required to be under the docs care nor take the medication because they can't do that without a court order but I am close to anxiety free on the med but might not be if I didn't take the meds. I would guess my anxiety would be worse without the med. However I still wouldn't have one of the listed disorders such as bi-polar or explosive disorder.

I just don't want to get in trouble.

Thank you again for your post.

swilson9989 wrote:So I guess the question is since I answered NO to the mental health questions did I answer that question truthfully? I thought for sure when I filled it out I did. Now I am not so sure is really what the main question is all about. Did I or did I not answer the question truthfully.

Again, guys I really apologize for the long questions. I just don't want to submit something that purges me but I'd really prefer a Texas LTC instead of another states CCW.

If you truly don't understand the question, then you might consider attaching a statement to your application telling the DPS that you do not understand the question and have them explain what "truthfully" means.

Dude just relax. Get the class taken and prints done and submit the stuff. If they need more info you will know if not you will have it in 60ish days.

Don't stress, you're good.

You should hope the DPS doesn't read this forum. They aren't mind readers. As long as you know in your own mind you answered honestly don't worry about it. You'll give yourself an anxiety attack. Just you now worrying about it tells me something about your character. A dishonest person wouldn't be worrying about it. They will let you know what you need to complete the process.

The Wall wrote:You should hope the DPS doesn't read this forum. They aren't mind readers. As long as you know in your own mind you answered honestly don't worry about it. You'll give yourself an anxiety attack. Just you now worrying about it tells me something about your character. A dishonest person wouldn't be worrying about it. They will let you know what you need to complete the process.

I don't think it makes him a dishonest person. Don't you worry just a bit every year when you hit send on your income taxes? I've never done anything wrong or lied on them but dang that makes you think REAL hard if you've dotted i's and crossed t's.

SIRIT wrote:

The Wall wrote:You should hope the DPS doesn't read this forum. They aren't mind readers. As long as you know in your own mind you answered honestly don't worry about it. You'll give yourself an anxiety attack. Just you now worrying about it tells me something about your character. A dishonest person wouldn't be worrying about it. They will let you know what you need to complete the process.

I don't think it makes him a dishonest person. Don't you worry just a bit every year when you hit send on your income taxes? I've never done anything wrong or lied on them but dang that makes you think REAL hard if you've dotted i's and crossed t's.

I think you read The Wall's statement wrong. He was saying the since the OP is worried then he has an honest character.

swilson9989 wrote:

rentz wrote:There have been a lot of questions like this recently
You disclosed so you're fine either way, it's possible the dps may ask for more info
The way I was told is that it's only a problem if you are required to be under a doctors care and required to take medication

Thanks very much for your response but I answered no on the mental part because I do not believe it applied too me or my condition so one may interpret that as I did not disclose the info.

Also I am not required to be under the docs care nor take the medication because they can't do that without a court order but I am close to anxiety free on the med but might not be if I didn't take the meds. I would guess my anxiety would be worse without the med. However I still wouldn't have one of the listed disorders such as bi-polar or explosive disorder.

I just don't want to get in trouble.

Thank you again for your post.

sorry misread, you're fine dont worry....unless you're required to take the meds you should be ok.
if you are REALLY concerned you could contact DPS

Thanks guys, I really appreciate everything.

You all are right. I answered all questions honestly and they way I determined they were asked to the best of my ability. I am an honest person especially when it comes to not violating a law. I am far from deranged or from making a bad decision when it comes to the storage and use of using a gun. I have nothing to hide and if for any reason they feel I shouldn't have a LTC then I can respect that.

Recently found another post from a guy who said his wife went through something similar. It was a hassle but in the end she got it. He indicated that one of the guys that processes them in respect to the mental part determination said she should have never answered the question yes, and since she had never been committed or adjudicated she was good to go. She did have to get a letter from her doctor since she answered yes. So that makes me feel a lot better. I feel much more confident like I did in the beginning answering no.

I just didn't want to get myself in trouble with the law was all by not answering a questions correctly. I just didn't have the confidence that they would assume I am a good guy trying to do right instead of trying to pull one over on them. And I don't begrudge that, I realize they have to do what they feel is best for the public.

Thank you all for all the help, confidence building in knowing I answered correctly and for being genuine.

Maybe this post will be helpful for others in the future trying to determine the same thing.

Many thanks! I'll let you all know how it went.

To answer your second question, yes, you may carry openly in Texas under authority of another state's CHL/LTC, provided its from a state Texas recognizes, the handgun(s) is/are carried in a belt or shoulder holster, and you follow all the laws and regulations that apply to a Texas LTC Holder.

Primary caveat is that you have no exemption from the Federal Gun Free School Zone act on an out of state license.