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Need a scope recommendation

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 11:14 am
by RPBrown
My wife and daughter got me an AR15 for my birthday (previous post). Found out these old eyes no longer do fixed sights very well so I am needing recommendations for a scope or dot sight.

Re: Need a scope recommendation

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 11:38 am
by flintknapper
Congratulations Sir and Happy Birthday!

I can sympathize with the "old eyes" comment.

I suppose we will need to know 'how' you expect to use your AR the most? Short range defensive weapon, target shooting 100 yds. and beyond, varmint hunting or some combination of these or other?

After that is established...I am certain you will get several pages of recommendations. Lots of good products out there these days, that is the good news.


Flint.

Re: Need a scope recommendation

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 12:03 pm
by RPBrown
It will mostly be used for varment and hog hunting but could be defensive as well (have shotguns and pistols as primary defensive)

Re: Need a scope recommendation

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 12:17 pm
by flintknapper
RPBrown wrote:It will mostly be used for varment and hog hunting but could be defensive as well (have shotguns and pistols as primary defensive)
^^^^^^^^^
RP, that is what I use mine for as well.

I have a 1x4 power scope on mine (with illuminated reticle for hogs at night) and it has served me well. Most of my encounters are 150 yards and in (probably 75 yds. on average).

Some type of red dot device might be a good choice for you as well. I grew up using traditional Scope optics...so that is what I stayed with.

I am sure others will chime in with good recommendations. Again, congratulations on your new rifle. Enjoy it.


Flint.

Re: Need a scope recommendation

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 1:02 pm
by The Annoyed Man
I have 3 ARs (including my wife's carbine), and 4 optics. :mrgreen:

On MY carbine (16" medium contour stainless Rainier Arms barrel), I have a Aimpoint T2 Micro, on a BOBRO mount, zeroed for 25 meters, AND I have a 4x32 BAC ACOG (TA31F Reticle), also on a BOBRO mount, zeroed to 100 yards. The BOBRO mounts are quick detachable, and lock down securely enough to allow switching back and forth between optics without any loss of zero, as long as they go back on the exact same spot on the rail.

On my DMR (18" stainless heavy contour Odin Works match barrel), I have a 1-6.5x Bushnell Elite Tactical SMRS (Mil/Mil turrets with illuminated BTR-1 bullet drop compensating reticle), on an American Defense AD-RECON 30 quick detachable mount.

On my wife's M4, I have an unmagnified EOTech 517 (same as a 512, but the buttons are on the side instead of the back), and I have an available 3X magnifier for it.

So that is a pretty wide gamut of optics for AR platform rifles. I am blessed enough that I don't need to reduce my choices to just one. But if I did have to make that kind of decision, I would choose either the ACOG or the Bushnell. Here's why:

The ACOG has a bullet drop compensating reticle, calibrated out to 600 yards, absolutely AMAZINGLY bright glass, and uses what's called the Bindon Aiming Concept.....that's the "BAC" in the model type. Because it is a fixed power optic, you would think that it would be useless at shorter ranges, but that isn't how it works. It is designed to be shot with both eyes open. Your brain will automatically merges the near and far image as your eyes track the targets.....is the only way I know how to explain it. Here's a video demonstration:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpGSKKgWWks

The Bushnell is a true 1X when zoomed out, and the reticle then appears more like an aiming dot, and can be shot both eyes open, behaving more like an Aimpoint. And 6.5X magnification will get you out far enough to hit at any distance you've got any business shooting a 5.56/.223 at. When zoomed up, the Reticle is a red donut, open at the bottom, with a bullet drop compensating ladder good for 600 yards. It is a First Focal Plane scope, so the reticle works at all magnifications for bullet drop.

The ACOG is much smaller and lighter than the Bushnell, so it has the slight edge. But if you don't think you'll ever shoot anything past 100 yards, I like the Aimpoint Micro better than the other two.

A lot of info, but hope it helps.

Re: Need a scope recommendation

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2016 11:36 am
by cyphertext
What kind of budget are you looking at? While TAM's suggestions are great optics, they are on the expensive side with the EoTech being the cheapest option. :eek6

What is on the rifle now? What do you not like about it? And what is your budget?

Re: Need a scope recommendation

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2016 12:09 pm
by comp73
I like the Leupold VX-R scopes with illuminated reticles. Reasonably priced compared to some others out there. I have a 3x9 with a Ballistic Firedot recticle on my AR10 and love it. They make 2 scopes specific to hog hunting that look like they could serve your needs.

https://www.leupold.com/hunting-shootin ... flescopes/

Last time I checked, Academy had them a lot cheaper than Leupold's MSRP