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CalAtlantic Homes (formerly Ryland) doesn't like you...

Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 9:06 pm
by OldCannon
So, this is what happens when a home builder gets bought up by a California company.

I already know several CHL real estate agents that will likely steer customers away from these locations now.

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Re: CalAtlantic Homes (formerly Ryland) doesn't like you...

Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 9:44 pm
by doncb
Wow. Nothing like being blatant about it. I'd be tempted to go in and get the sales person all excited and then tell them never mind, your company doesn't like the 2nd Amendment.

Re: CalAtlantic Homes (formerly Ryland) doesn't like you...

Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 6:45 am
by OldCannon
doncb wrote:Wow. Nothing like being blatant about it. I'd be tempted to go in and get the sales person all excited and then tell them never mind, your company doesn't like the 2nd Amendment.
Wouldn't help. I can tell you flat out that the ones I've talked to are pretty irritated about it. I'm pretty angry myself, because Ryland is in the process of building a home for me (I put $ down before they were acquired and the signs went up). If they want to have a meeting with me, they will have to do it someplace other than there.

Re: CalAtlantic Homes (formerly Ryland) doesn't like you...

Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 7:08 am
by Bryanmc
doncb wrote:Wow. Nothing like being blatant about it.
I don't like it either, but with all the complaining about signs you can't see, hard to read signs and improperly worded or posted signs, at least they got it right.

Re: CalAtlantic Homes (formerly Ryland) doesn't like you...

Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 5:57 pm
by The Annoyed Man
OldCannon wrote:
doncb wrote:Wow. Nothing like being blatant about it. I'd be tempted to go in and get the sales person all excited and then tell them never mind, your company doesn't like the 2nd Amendment.
Wouldn't help. I can tell you flat out that the ones I've talked to are pretty irritated about it. I'm pretty angry myself, because Ryland is in the process of building a home for me (I put $ down before they were acquired and the signs went up). If they want to have a meeting with me, they will have to do it someplace other than there.
Stick to your guns. Make them meet you at some gun range 25 miles away, out in the country, by the side of a small county road, where there's no shade. If they whine and moan, tell them you could meet with them in their air conditioned office, but since they don't care about your personal safety, you're meeting at your office where you are safer.

Re: CalAtlantic Homes (formerly Ryland) doesn't like you...

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 5:24 am
by OldCannon
The Annoyed Man wrote:
OldCannon wrote:
doncb wrote:Wow. Nothing like being blatant about it. I'd be tempted to go in and get the sales person all excited and then tell them never mind, your company doesn't like the 2nd Amendment.
Wouldn't help. I can tell you flat out that the ones I've talked to are pretty irritated about it. I'm pretty angry myself, because Ryland is in the process of building a home for me (I put $ down before they were acquired and the signs went up). If they want to have a meeting with me, they will have to do it someplace other than there.
Stick to your guns. Make them meet you at some gun range 25 miles away, out in the country, by the side of a small county road, where there's no shade. If they whine and moan, tell them you could meet with them in their air conditioned office, but since they don't care about your personal safety, you're meeting at your office where you are safer.
Well, the problem is that all the employees (based on all the folks I've met) are of a Texan mindset. It's the "corporate" people in California who have decided this "makes people safer" and could care less about reason (because, California).

Re: CalAtlantic Homes (formerly Ryland) doesn't like you...

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 10:33 am
by The Annoyed Man
OldCannon wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote:
OldCannon wrote:
doncb wrote:Wow. Nothing like being blatant about it. I'd be tempted to go in and get the sales person all excited and then tell them never mind, your company doesn't like the 2nd Amendment.
Wouldn't help. I can tell you flat out that the ones I've talked to are pretty irritated about it. I'm pretty angry myself, because Ryland is in the process of building a home for me (I put $ down before they were acquired and the signs went up). If they want to have a meeting with me, they will have to do it someplace other than there.
Stick to your guns. Make them meet you at some gun range 25 miles away, out in the country, by the side of a small county road, where there's no shade. If they whine and moan, tell them you could meet with them in their air conditioned office, but since they don't care about your personal safety, you're meeting at your office where you are safer.
Well, the problem is that all the employees (based on all the folks I've met) are of a Texan mindset. It's the "corporate" people in California who have decided this "makes people safer" and could care less about reason (because, California).
Are they persons of responsibility who could give you individual permission to carry past the signs? Isn't that allowed in the law somewhere?

Re: CalAtlantic Homes (formerly Ryland) doesn't like you...

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 10:51 am
by Jusme
OldCannon wrote:
doncb wrote:Wow. Nothing like being blatant about it. I'd be tempted to go in and get the sales person all excited and then tell them never mind, your company doesn't like the 2nd Amendment.
Wouldn't help. I can tell you flat out that the ones I've talked to are pretty irritated about it. I'm pretty angry myself, because Ryland is in the process of building a home for me (I put $ down before they were acquired and the signs went up). If they want to have a meeting with me, they will have to do it someplace other than there.

Are they posting only houses for sale, or ones that they are building for you? If it was my house being built, they would have to replace the signs every morning because they would mysteriously disappear every night. JMHO

Re: CalAtlantic Homes (formerly Ryland) doesn't like you...

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 11:11 am
by OldCannon
Jusme wrote: Are they posting only houses for sale, or ones that they are building for you? If it was my house being built, they would have to replace the signs every morning because they would mysteriously disappear every night. JMHO
Neither. Just posted at the model home that houses the sales office. Nowhere else.

Re: CalAtlantic Homes (formerly Ryland) doesn't like you...

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 11:15 am
by Jusme
OldCannon wrote:
Jusme wrote: Are they posting only houses for sale, or ones that they are building for you? If it was my house being built, they would have to replace the signs every morning because they would mysteriously disappear every night. JMHO
Neither. Just posted at the model home that houses the sales office. Nowhere else.

Yeah, I would definitely make them have their meetings in a place of my choosing, and let them know exactly why. I would also refuse to let them put up any advertising at the house you are having built, to let them know you don't want to give the impression, that you support them in their stand against the 2A. JMHO

Re: CalAtlantic Homes (formerly Ryland) doesn't like you...

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 2:29 pm
by SigM4
Maybe meet them at your new house/lot while OCing?

Again, I get that it's not the locals that are the issue, but as a matter of principle I wouldn't want to indulge the companies wishes by meeting with anyone in their offices.

Re: CalAtlantic Homes (formerly Ryland) doesn't like you...

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 4:56 pm
by OldCannon
SigM4 wrote:Maybe meet them at your new house/lot while OCing?

Again, I get that it's not the locals that are the issue, but as a matter of principle I wouldn't want to indulge the companies wishes by meeting with anyone in their offices.
Totally hear you, but, frankly, I'm in no mood to anger my homebuilder, who could mysteriously find a reason to slow my home purchase process down or make it a pain. As it is, I'm going to be closing mid summer, so it will be a little bit harder to move my current home (but it's Austin, so we're probably talking it will take two hours to sell my home, rather than one :lol: ). I have better windmills to tilt at. I'd rather them just get my home done promptly and then be done with them.

Re: CalAtlantic Homes (formerly Ryland) doesn't like you...

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 5:55 pm
by sjfcontrol
I would think they COULD post the property your house is being built on, if they wanted. After all, it's not your property until,you close and pay for it.

Re: CalAtlantic Homes (formerly Ryland) doesn't like you...

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 6:25 pm
by Eric Lamberson
Same thing happened to my dentist. A Illinois company bought his practice and immediately posted (incorrect) signs. Sigh--looking for another dentist is a pain.

Re: CalAtlantic Homes (formerly Ryland) doesn't like you...

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 1:33 pm
by OldCannon
sjfcontrol wrote:I would think they COULD post the property your house is being built on, if they wanted. After all, it's not your property until,you close and pay for it.
They could, but like most home builders, they're stingy. They only post signs where the new sales traffic is, presumably so they can tell people to avoid buying from them.