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Printing
Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 9:30 pm
by mmaddox93
I have a quick question will i get in trouble if i CC my weapon and the magazine well is poking out the side of my shirt or if my gun is "printed" through my shirt it is not that noticeable when i look at my self. I know the law says ) "Concealed Handgun" means a handgun, the presence of which is not openly discernible to the ordinary observation of a reasonable person, but my question is since open carry came out this year... Would that change things a bit or would it still be intentionally fail to conceal the weapon?
Re: Printing
Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 9:35 pm
by cmgee67
Printing is not against the law anymore. No worries
Re: Printing
Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 9:44 pm
by Skiprr
cmgee67 wrote:Printing is not against the law anymore. No worries
Actually, "printing" was never against the law; the term was never written-into or defined in legislation.
Re: Printing
Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 10:05 pm
by o b juan
good answer skipper
Why do folks ask these questions? Did the Instructor not advise them , did they not listen, or is it just to much information for folks to receive in a short time??
Today I did a class for 3 guys; I explained how to go on line and was thorough after classroom and shooting.
1 hour later one of the guys wife called me and asked me how he needed to apply for license..
I try real hard not to get short but it is a struggle and my voice says more than I intend for it to do.
This happened to be a guy that took a class here in the Valley from a guy that flew in that flew in from god knows where from who in intmated it was a Texas CHL (for $200.00 and there were 40 people in the class)
It was a florida license to carry.
Ringling/Barnum & Baily was right.
Re: Printing
Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 11:19 pm
by SewTexas
o b juan wrote:good answer skipper
Why do folks ask these questions? Did the Instructor not advise them , did they not listen, or is it just to much information for folks to receive in a short time??
Today I did a class for 3 guys; I explained how to go on line and was thorough after classroom and shooting.
1 hour later one of the guys wife called me and asked me how he needed to apply for license..
I try real hard not to get short but it is a struggle and my voice says more than I intend for it to do.
This happened to be a guy that took a class here in the Valley from a guy that flew in that flew in from god knows where from who in intmated it was a Texas CHL (for $200.00 and there were 40 people in the class)
It was a florida license to carry.
Ringling/Barnum & Baily was right.
referring to the highlighed...it's possible the instructor missed that, it's possible the student missed that, and yeh, it's a lot of info to absorb in a short amount of time.
If you are moving in from out of state, you're ahead of the game,
however, in many states printing is pretty much the same as "displaying".
Re: Printing
Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 11:51 pm
by mmaddox93
o b juan wrote:good answer skipper
Why do folks ask these questions? Did the Instructor not advise them , did they not listen, or is it just to much information for folks to receive in a short time??
Today I did a class for 3 guys; I explained how to go on line and was thorough after classroom and shooting.
1 hour later one of the guys wife called me and asked me how he needed to apply for license..
I try real hard not to get short but it is a struggle and my voice says more than I intend for it to do.
This happened to be a guy that took a class here in the Valley from a guy that flew in that flew in from god knows where from who in intmated it was a Texas CHL (for $200.00 and there were 40 people in the class)
It was a florida license to carry.
Ringling/Barnum & Baily was right.
The instructor did go over it in my class but it was so much before and after that to remember my bad if I didn't pay attwntion....
Re: Printing
Posted: Sat May 07, 2016 10:08 am
by Dart106A
A young man I work with recently took the class (but has yet to complete his package) and told me he learned from his class that one CANNOT carry CONCEALED in an ankle holster. When I tried to explain the new rules for OPEN CARRY, he was adamant that he heard the CONCEALED rule correctly.
I am leaning towards the possibility that he just did not understand his instructor. I hope.
Sigh...
Re: Printing
Posted: Sat May 07, 2016 10:20 am
by The Wall
Is printing legal?

Just kidding!
Re: Printing
Posted: Sat May 07, 2016 10:33 am
by cbunt1
The Wall wrote:Is printing legal?

Just kidding!
Sure it is. Look how many print shops are out there. Heck, you can even order printing at Office Depot!!!
On a more serious note, as an instructor, it's a lot of information to disseminate in 4-6 hours. As a student it's even more information to absorb in 4-6 hours.
And while the test we give is directly related to the day-to-day act of carrying a gun in public, but like so many academic ventures, the information has very little to do with actually carrying a gun in public.
Much like the written driver license test we all took has very little to do with the actual driving of a car in real-world traffic.
Re: Printing
Posted: Sat May 07, 2016 2:09 pm
by ScottDLS
The Wall wrote:Is printing legal?

Just kidding!
Is cursive legal?

Re: Printing
Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 7:16 am
by thetexan
I deal with this daily as an FAA instructor pilot and instructor in aviation related industries.
Most people I teach in the LTC class are aware of the importance of the subject matter taught but do not understand the investment in time they must make to adequately study and become subject matter experts in the laws and academics of gun carry. And there are too many who just want to get the class over with. Then then there is the idea that this material can be properly taught in 4 hours!
This all contributes to a generally less than academically proficient licensee population. When you add to this the fact that the vast majority of licensees do not go out and practice and drill on the defensive use of the gun it is concerning.
tex
Re: Printing
Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 8:03 am
by LosAlce
thetexan wrote:I deal with this daily as an FAA instructor pilot and instructor in aviation related industries.
Most people I teach in the LTC class are aware of the importance of the subject matter taught but do not understand the investment in time they must make to adequately study and become subject matter experts in the laws and academics of gun carry. And there are too many who just want to get the class over with. Then then there is the idea that this material can be properly taught in 4 hours!
This all contributes to a generally less than academically proficient licensee population. When you add to this the fact that the vast majority of licensees do not go out and practice and drill on the defensive use of the gun it is concerning.
tex
You've described my brother-in-law to a "T"

In his defense though, with every visit we have with him and his wife, we try to share new things we have learned ourselves, though it's getting harder to convince him to go to the range since he's become self conscious about his shooting ability. A game of "battleship" didn't go his way when he played against my husband and it definitely hit his pride. He's taken the LTC class but not finished his paperwork or done his fingerprints. I've made it my goal to get him there by the end of the year! I've considered asking him and his wife to join me in taking more training classes. I'm hoping that will help give him more confidence and spur his interest again.