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California Senate approves sweeping gun-control

Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 5:02 am
by NotRPB
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/05 ... sures.html
more at link above, below are excerpts
reviving an effort to significantly tighten California's already strict gun laws in the wake of last year's terrorist attack in San Bernardino.
Lawmakers voted to outlaw the sale of assault weapons with easily detachable magazines and to require that people turn in magazines capable of holding more than 10 rounds. They also backed a variety of other measures aimed at restricting access to guns and ammunition or limiting the carnage they can inflict.
It's illegal in California to sell magazines holding more than 10 rounds or to bring them into the state, but people who already owned them are allowed to keep them. Senators voted Thursday to outlaw possession of a high-capacity magazine, essentially forcing owners to give them up or run afoul of the law.
gun-control measures
Published May 19, 2016 Associated Press



Senators approved 11 gun-related bills in total.

They include regulations for homemade firearms,
background checks for ammunition purchases,
a mandate to report lost or stolen guns,
a ban on loaning firearms to friends
and funding for a gun-violence research center.


The debate in the Senate comes as Newsom, a Democrat running for governor in 2018, is advocating a November gun control ballot measure incorporating many of the policies the Senate backed Thursday.

Senate President Pro Tem Kevin de Leon, D-Los Angeles, said he's also concerned that presumptive Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump's campaign will drive more right-leaning voters to the polls and imperil the gun-control initiative.

"I think it's too risky to put a lot of hard work, decades of hard work, before the voters of California. We don't know if it passes or not," de Leon said. "But if we can get it done in the legislative body, the question is, why not do it?"
The initiative isn't going away, said Dan Newman, a campaign strategist working on the campaign. The initiative takes a different approach to tracking ammunition purchases and also requires vendors to report lost or stolen ammunition.

"It's one of those situations where more is more," Newman said. "The NRA is so powerful, and the gun violence tragedies are so frequent and so horrific, we need to take bold action in every way possible."

Re: California Senate approves sweeping gun-control

Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 5:53 am
by The Annoyed Man
I'm actually driving to California on Monday and will be there for a couple of weeks, visiting friends and family. I'll be dropping by the gun stores I used to frequent to "take the temperature". Maybe I'll have a chance to pick up some 30 round mags for cheap to bring back with me.

Re: California Senate approves sweeping gun-control

Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 6:21 am
by Countryside
California? Wow...amazing...how unexpected! :biggrinjester:

Re: California Senate approves sweeping gun-control

Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 6:34 am
by rentz
seems very similar to what sanfrancisco did, make everything so difficult that it's virtually banning everything.

Re: California Senate approves sweeping gun-control

Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 7:10 am
by BurtG
I suspect their efforts will simply turn Kalifornia into another Mexico. You know how well their strict laws have prevented
violence down there. Another lucrative black market is being created. Things other than drugs and people will be smuggled in.

Re: California Senate approves sweeping gun-control

Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 8:10 am
by Ruark
Not yet. The bills still have to go through the Assembly Public Safety Committee and the Assembly Appropriations Committee, and then, if they get through those committees, go to the General Assembly for a final vote, then the gov's desk. In any case, I'm glad I live in Texas. This is so ridiculous it's nightmarish. You can just see all those Bloods, Crips, MS13s, KKKs, Hells Angels, psychos, etc. lining up at the police station to turn in their 12-round magazines.....

Re: California Senate approves sweeping gun-control

Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 8:19 am
by TexasJohnBoy
Just stop. Go home California, you're drunk.

Re: California Senate approves sweeping gun-control

Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 9:11 am
by vjallen75
NotRPB wrote:background checks for ammunition purchases
:headscratch

Re: California Senate approves sweeping gun-control

Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 9:13 am
by Solaris
California was once one of the coolest states in the union. In less than 50 years, it is one of the worst.

The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.

Re: California Senate approves sweeping gun-control

Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 9:28 am
by parabelum
They aim is to turn law abiding citizens into criminals, then use that as justification as to why "those people" should not own guns altogether. For if you don't turn in your "high capacity" mags, in the eyes of CA backwards law, you have just crossed into law breaker category.

Out of control, deranged, heavily sedated and medicated government that's lost touch with reality.

Re: California Senate approves sweeping gun-control

Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 9:47 am
by Ruark
Solaris wrote:California was once one of the coolest states in the union. In less than 50 years, it is one of the worst.
Yes. I lived in CA about 60 years ago when I was a kid, not too far from Yosemite, and we still travel out there every few years. It used to be such a magical place, with jaw-dropping natural beauty, from Death Valley to Sequoia. I remember being in high school and all the "sunny summer" California music from the Beach Boys, et. al. Now you can't even burn wood in your fireplace (in fact, builders are not allowed to build houses with fireplaces), and neighbors can call in reports when they see smoke coming out of a chimney, which will bring local enforcers out with a $500+ ticket.

Now there are not only these restrictive laws against self-protection, but the whole state is overrun with gang violence, in some towns so bad people don't even leave their homes after dark. I remember stopping at a roadside park near Sacramento one time. It looked nice, but we got in there and everything was plastered with MS-13 graffiti. And of course, its economic problems are legendary. Sad for a place called "The Golden State," which it once was.

Re: California Senate approves sweeping gun-control

Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 2:14 pm
by C-dub
The Annoyed Man wrote:I'm actually driving to California on Monday and will be there for a couple of weeks, visiting friends and family. I'll be dropping by the gun stores I used to frequent to "take the temperature". Maybe I'll have a chance to pick up some 30 round mags for cheap to bring back with me.
Isn't it already illegal for them to be sold in Kali? Now they're making them illegal to possess for those that had them prior to them being made illegal to sell.

Re: California Senate approves sweeping gun-control

Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 4:08 pm
by The Annoyed Man
C-dub wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote:I'm actually driving to California on Monday and will be there for a couple of weeks, visiting friends and family. I'll be dropping by the gun stores I used to frequent to "take the temperature". Maybe I'll have a chance to pick up some 30 round mags for cheap to bring back with me.
Isn't it already illegal for them to be sold in Kali? Now they're making them illegal to possess for those that had them prior to them being made illegal to sell.
Yes, it is illegal for them to be sold, but if anybody has some and wants to unload them FTF with me for a price that satisfies both of us, isn't that better for them than simply turning them in for destruction?

Re: California Senate approves sweeping gun-control

Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 4:13 pm
by C-dub
The Annoyed Man wrote:
C-dub wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote:I'm actually driving to California on Monday and will be there for a couple of weeks, visiting friends and family. I'll be dropping by the gun stores I used to frequent to "take the temperature". Maybe I'll have a chance to pick up some 30 round mags for cheap to bring back with me.
Isn't it already illegal for them to be sold in Kali? Now they're making them illegal to possess for those that had them prior to them being made illegal to sell.
Yes, it is illegal for them to be sold, but if anybody has some and wants to unload them FTF with me for a price that satisfies both of us, isn't that better for them than simply turning them in for destruction?
Ah, you're talking about the private sale. I didn't catch that. :thumbs2:

Re: California Senate approves sweeping gun-control

Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 4:32 pm
by The Annoyed Man
C-dub wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote:
C-dub wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote:I'm actually driving to California on Monday and will be there for a couple of weeks, visiting friends and family. I'll be dropping by the gun stores I used to frequent to "take the temperature". Maybe I'll have a chance to pick up some 30 round mags for cheap to bring back with me.
Isn't it already illegal for them to be sold in Kali? Now they're making them illegal to possess for those that had them prior to them being made illegal to sell.
Yes, it is illegal for them to be sold, but if anybody has some and wants to unload them FTF with me for a price that satisfies both of us, isn't that better for them than simply turning them in for destruction?
Ah, you're talking about the private sale. I didn't catch that. :thumbs2:
Looking back, I probably didn't make that clear. I just now Facebook messaged a friend who's stationed out there right now and shooting a lot, offering to buy his used 20 and 30 round mags when the time comes to unload. I'll do Paypal and he can UPS them to me.