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French Open: Serena Williams vs Putintseva

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 11:59 am
by Abraham
I'm stuck inside and rarely watch any sports except boxing. Today was an exception.

The tennis battle of Serena Williams vs Putintseva was magnificent.

I just love Serena.

She's gracious and great.

Some of the rallies were other-worldy by both players.

I also think I'm in love with Putintseva.

She's a real beauty with tremendous skill.

Any of you watching The French Open?

Re: French Open: Serena Williams vs Putintseva

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 12:28 pm
by WildBill
Abraham wrote:I'm stuck inside and rarely watch any sports except boxing. Today was an exception.

The tennis battle of Serena Williams vs Putintseva was magnificent.

I just love Serena.

She's gracious and great.

Some of the rallies were other-worldy by both players.

I also think I'm in love with Putintseva.

She's a real beauty with tremendous skill.

Any of you watching The French Open?
I think you are very fickle. :mrgreen:

Re: French Open: Serena Williams vs Putintseva

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 12:44 pm
by Abraham
WildBill,

Torn between two lovers, feelin' like a fool
Lovin' both of you is breakin' all the rules

Yep, I love gorgeous, powerful women and these two have it all.

Re: French Open: Serena Williams vs Putintseva

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 12:59 pm
by WildBill
Abraham wrote:WildBill,

Torn between two lovers, feelin' like a fool
Lovin' both of you is breakin' all the rules

Yep, I love gorgeous, powerful women and these two have it all.


I had not seen her before, but the Russian lady is gorgeous, but I think both of them are too young for geezers like you and me.

Isn't there also a song something about "Dream On"? :mrgreen:

Re: French Open: Serena Williams vs Putintseva

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 1:24 pm
by rotor
Don't know about the Russian but way to much testosterone for Serena (by her appearance). The way the Russians do doping though they probably have doped her too. Call me cynical.

Re: French Open: Serena Williams vs Putintseva

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 1:50 pm
by Abraham
WildBill and rotor,

All I know is gorgeous, powerful women I find attractive.

As a single 35 year old, (half a life ago I might add...) I dated 20 something year old athletes, beauty queens, and a few models, plus some very smart plain-janes. The plain janes were mostly graduate students. I found their intelligence quite the aphrodisiac. Actually a few had advanced degrees already and just loved to learn. One, a psychotherapist a 6'6" stunner and in heels she was spectacular. I'm short. We made quite the couple.

It turned out the plain jane-smartees were the best. For a year, I was madly in love with the CFO of a small oil company. Not at all gorgeous in the conventional sense, but man, I found her smoking...Never let it be said that accountants are hum drum. They aren't...

Alas, those days are in the rear view mirror, but man, while it lasted, it was great fun!

If I drop dead in the next micro-moment, I've lived a wonderful life and women are the reason.

Re: French Open: Serena Williams vs Putintseva

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 3:03 pm
by WildBill
Abraham wrote:WildBill and rotor,

All I know is gorgeous, powerful women I find attractive.

As a single 35 year old, (half a life ago I might add...) I dated 20 something year old athletes, beauty queens, and a few models, plus some very smart plain-janes. The plain janes were mostly graduate students. I found their intelligence quite the aphrodisiac. Actually a few had advanced degrees already and just loved to learn. One, a psychotherapist a 6'6" stunner and in heels she was spectacular. I'm short. We made quite the couple.

It turned out the plain jane-smartees were the best. For a year, I was madly in love with the CFO of a small oil company. Not at all gorgeous in the conventional sense, but man, I found her smoking...Never let it be said that accountants are hum drum. They aren't...

Alas, those days are in the rear view mirror, but man, while it lasted, it was great fun!

If I drop dead in the next micro-moment, I've lived a wonderful life and women are the reason.
Abraham - I will agree with your assessment, but not wanting to get banned ... :leaving

Re: French Open: Serena Williams vs Putintseva

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 4:09 pm
by rotor
Abraham wrote:WildBill and rotor,


If I drop dead in the next micro-moment, I've lived a wonderful life and women are the reason.
If those women are testosteroned up at your age (and mine) we would be dead. Testosterone in women does powerful things.

Re: French Open: Serena Williams vs Putintseva

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 5:58 pm
by Skiprr
Just a note that professional tennis has more rigorous and random drug testing than almost any other sport. Pro players have to, literally, let the testing federation know their location and planned locations at any given time. The player can be notified in no more than 24 hours that a drug test is required, and tests are routinely conducted for most players at each of the four Grand Slam majors every year. Witness the recent case of Maria Sharapova, the world's richest female athlete, and--formerly--one of the biggest draws in any tennis tournament. Also remember that the professional tennis "season" is effectively year-round; the top singles and doubles players compete at year-ending tournaments, but even for the lower-ranked players the only "off-season" is the last three weeks of December and the first week of January. That means pro tennis players--unlike sports like track & field, bicycling, football, etc.--are being drug tested every month of the year.

So, no, I very much doubt any pro tennis player gets away with performance enhancing drugs of any kind. In Sharapova's case, she had been taking the prescribed drug meldonium (mildronate) since 2006. It was added to tennis's banned list last January 1; she was tested a few weeks later at the Australian Open and, zap, one of the biggest names in all of the sport was outta there. The drug is not on the banned list in many sports because there are still questions about whether or not it can actually be a performance enhancer in healthy athletes.

Abraham: watch more women's tennis. I wager you'll be smitten numerous times. :mrgreen:

An aside, I mentioned years ago on the Forum that I played tennis, and got some snarky comments, implying I should turn in my man-card. But that was from guys who obviously didn't follow the modern game, and maybe remembered seeing a match in the '70s on clay where the points consisted of two 5'9" guys hoisting innumerable, 20 mph moonballs back and forth.

Today, the average height of all male pro players is 6'2.2" (6'4" and over is common; the top U.S. player is John Isner at 6'10") and 130 mph serves are de riguer; the current record is over 150 mph. Heck, even mid-level recreational players commonly serve over 100 mph...even in the 40+ and 55+ age groups (much of that due to improvements in racquet and string technology). It ain't your grandfather's game.

I started playing in my 30's, almost 30 years ago, partly because I didn't have the patience for golf and I wanted to find a sport I could continue to play as I grew old. And it's about as good a cross-training sport as you can find. It requires both static and dynamic balance, excellent burst-mode footwork, good flexibility and cardiovascular conditioning, and superb distance judgement and eye-hand coordination. Definitely useful in proficient shooting of any type.

I've always augmented tennis with weight training and some martial arts and aerobic work, but otherwise it is, IMHO, just about the perfect participatory sport. And you can even play for a USTA national championship in age categories in five-year increments from 30 to 90! It's also an individual sport--unlike other great cross-training sports, like basketball and soccer--which makes it about as close as you can come to a combination of chess and boxing...with a lot of short-distance sprints thrown in.

And did I mention that tennis is one of the very few sports where men and women can compete together...even for amateur and professional championships?

P.S. That this year's Roland Garros (French Open) is without either Rafael Nadal or Roger Federer (the Fed had played in 65 straight Grand Slam majors prior to this) in the second week, speaks to the inevitable fact that the "Golden Era" of modern tennis will inexorably turn the page to the next chapter, and we can only hope that someone will emerge to challenge Novak Djokovic in the kind of epic battles we saw between Federer and Nadal.

Now back to your regularly scheduled programming...

Re: French Open: Serena Williams vs Putintseva

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 9:07 pm
by rotor
Is this not performance enhancing drugs?

Image

Re: French Open: Serena Williams vs Putintseva

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 8:34 am
by Abraham
Skiprr,

Your post was terrific!

And yes, I'll be watching more women's tennis.

I hadn't watch any tennis in decades. When I did, I found it only mildly interesting.

Now, with these smoking serves, smashes, lobs, rallies, incredible drop shots, far exceed what I once observed.

Plus, I can't wait until Maria Sharapova (I hope) returns. She makes my heart go pity-pat...

rotor,

Are you positive that photo hasn't be altered, i.e. photo-shopped?

No question Serena has a highly muscular build due (I assume) to genetics, rigorous training and simply playing often.

Re: French Open: Serena Williams vs Putintseva

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 10:32 am
by rotor
Abraham wrote:Skiprr,

Your post was terrific!

And yes, I'll be watching more women's tennis.

I hadn't watch any tennis in decades. When I did, I found it only mildly interesting.

Now, with these smoking serves, smashes, lobs, rallies, incredible drop shots, far exceed what I once observed.

Plus, I can't wait until Maria Sharapova (I hope) returns. She makes my heart go pity-pat...

rotor,

Are you positive that photo hasn't be altered, i.e. photo-shopped?

No question Serena has a highly muscular build due (I assume) to genetics, rigorous training and simply playing often.
Abraham, I can't verify the photo wasn't altered. I borrowed it from the internet. So many deny their doping. Lance Armstrong, the entire Russian Olympic team, so many baseball players. Just because they are tested doesn't mean anything as they learn how to cheat. If the photo is real, and I suspect it is, I think her build is the result of anabolic steroids.

Re: French Open: Serena Williams vs Putintseva

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 12:28 pm
by Abraham
rotor,

I did a little research and from what I could find, you may very well be right.

I've been contending for years, if steroid use can't be stopped, it ought to be allowed for everyone, as long as they are fully appraised of the future effects of their health.

Re: French Open: Serena Williams vs Putintseva

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 9:32 pm
by Dadtodabone
Caroline Wozniacki, a former #1 ranked player and pretty close to my tested "physical ideal". Wuff!