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Putin helping to elect Trump

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 8:38 am
by philip964
Has anyone noticed how quickly the story on the rigging of the Democratic Primaries has changed from that, to Russia is trying to help elect Trump.

Now that I fully understand how the Clinton machine works, it begins to stand out so easy.

Julian Assage said on the news it was not the Russians who gave him the information, but the news media shows "three experts" who said it was the Russians. The national news focuses on this and concludes its Russia helping to elect Trump. A foreign government interfering in the Presidential election.

But of course the Russians did not hack Hillary's basement computer. And foreign governments giving millions of dollars to Bill and Hillary is not interfering in the Presidential election.

My Facebook feed this morning is filled with Hillary followers condemning Trump's involvement with the Russians.

They are really good at this.

I am reading a book on the downing of TWA Flight 800. If you have not looked into this, you have no idea how the Clinton's operate.

Re: Putin helping to elect Trump

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 8:44 am
by Abraham
Watch "House of Cards" with Keven Spacey.

It's a model of the clintons.

Re: Putin helping to elect Trump

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 8:48 am
by The Wall
The Russians didn't write the emails. And Trump isn't helping the Russians at all. They actually like Obama the one that does nothing but yap his jaws when they invade other countries. Putin thinks Obama is a wimp and he would be correct. If anything Putin would respect Trump for being strong. Doesn't mean they are bosom buddies.

Re: Putin helping to elect Trump

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 10:56 am
by mojo84
The dems are masters at managing the media. The repubs are the jv team when it comes to managing the media and news cycles.

Re: Putin helping to elect Trump

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 12:36 pm
by karder
Maybe the Russians are mad about what the DNC did to comrade Bernie.

Re: Putin helping to elect Trump

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 1:15 pm
by LucasMcCain
karder wrote:Maybe the Russians are mad about what the DNC did to comrade Bernie.
This cracked me up. I work with a Chinese woman who said Bernie is more hardline communist than the Chinese government is these days. :eek6

Re: Putin helping to elect Trump

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 1:21 pm
by Oldgringo
Abraham wrote:Watch "House of Cards" with Keven Spacey.

It's a model of the clintons.
:iagree: and the new series is due out shortly.

Re: Putin helping to elect Trump

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 1:33 pm
by ELB
mojo84 wrote:The dems are masters at managing the media. The repubs are the jv team when it comes to managing the media and news cycles.
It's hard to "manage" people on the enemy team. As many of the DNC emails have proved, the mainstream media is simply another propaganda arm of the Democratic Party. As Glenn Reynolds says, "journalists" are largely Democratic operatives with bylines.

Re: Putin helping to elect Trump

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 1:35 pm
by ELB
The Wall wrote:The Russians didn't write the emails.
Yes.

Re: Putin helping to elect Trump

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 2:06 pm
by rotor
Hillary should have given Putin a better "reset button".

Re: Putin helping to elect Trump

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 7:02 am
by philip964
George Will says Trump has financial ties to Russian Oligarchs that is why he won't release his taxes.

This is all because the Democrats rigged their primary.

Re: Putin helping to elect Trump

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 7:19 am
by mojo84
ELB wrote:
mojo84 wrote:The dems are masters at managing the media. The repubs are the jv team when it comes to managing the media and news cycles.
It's hard to "manage" people on the enemy team. As many of the DNC emails have proved, the mainstream media is simply another propaganda arm of the Democratic Party. As Glenn Reynolds says, "journalists" are largely Democratic operatives with bylines.
I hear what you are saying. However, they are masters at managing the news cycle by ignoring, lying, redirecting and obfuscating until the media and people move on. Look at all of the Clinton and Obama controversies and how they drug then out until nothing really happened.

That type of management and manipulation isn't direct control. It is indirect management and control.

Re: Putin helping to elect Trump

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 7:41 am
by The Annoyed Man
mojo84 wrote:The dems are masters at managing the media. The repubs are the jv team when it comes to managing the media and news cycles.
Actually, no. The dems don't have to manage the media. They ARE the media. In an age when people enroll in journalism school to "change the world", and 80% or more of newsroom employees are registered democrats, no management is necessary.

Re: Putin helping to elect Trump

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 7:44 am
by mojo84
The Annoyed Man wrote:
mojo84 wrote:The dems are masters at managing the media. The repubs are the jv team when it comes to managing the media and news cycles.
Actually, no. The dems don't have to manage the media. They ARE the media. In an age when people enroll in journalism school to "change the world", and 80% or more of newsroom employees are registered democrats, no management is necessary.
There it's management going on. The fact that articles are submitted to the subjects prior to publication demonstrates that it is happening. Even a Politico author was recently exposed.

http://heavy.com/news/2016/07/wikileaks ... ec-jvf/11/

This stuff happens more often than people realize.

Re: Putin helping to elect Trump

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 7:56 am
by canvasbck
The talking point that the DNC agreed on "The Russians are trying to swing the election" will be so easy for Trump to point right back at them. With Trump's ability to manipulate the media, I will be surprised if he doesn't turn the narrative right around.

Imagine Trump's voice saying this:

"Let's assume for a minute that the Russians were behind the DNC hack (they weren't' but for the sake of argument lets say they were).So, the Russians supposedly hack the DNC, and release all of these emails showing that Debbie Wasserman Shultz, and others, are trying to rig the game for Hillary. That's not the Russians trying to fix the election, it's the Democrats trying to rig their own election. And it worked. Look at how close Bernie came to winning ,he totally caved and threw it all away in the end, but he came very very close to winning even with the party rigging the primaries against him. They had all of the control and an independent socialist from Vermont almost beat her even with the entire party establishment undermining him. That shows what a terribly weak candidate Hillary is, she had the entire party rigging it for her, superdelegates, the media, everybody and she still couldn't put it away until the end. Without the game being rigged, Hillary would have lost her parties primary, again. Just weak, very weak."