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Engineering/Construction fail in the works in SF
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 4:03 am
by Dave2
Apparently an 8-yo, 58-story, residential tower is maybe falling over. To be clear, the article merely claims that it's "tilting", but I've been watching a lot of "Yes, Minister" lately (fascinating documentary on how government works), so I'm pretty sure that "tilting" is just misdirectionese for "falling over, slowly (for now)".
I should probably tell my dad about it tomorrow, since he works nearby.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/08/01/sw ... lting.html
Re: Engineering/Construction fail in the works in SF
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 6:05 am
by philip964
Apparently it has settled 16 inches and tilted 2 inches.
Imagine what will happen when an earthquake causes liquifaction of that soft compressible gumbo it is apparently founded on. Wow.
16 inches of settlement is a lot. I hoped they planned for that. Opening the front door usually is a problem if settlement exceeds one half an inch.
Yeah I would say that something like that hurts property values of a condo. Condos in San Fransisco start at about 1 million for a 450 sf old run down studio type place with no parking. Can't even imagine how much you would spend for a new condo in a high rise.
The metro station to me is shallow to the bottom of the high rises foundation. If it was below the foundation they might have a claim.
Condo's are a lawsuit nightmare for all involved.
Re: Engineering/Construction fail in the works in SF
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 11:39 am
by Dave2
philip964 wrote:Imagine what will happen when an earthquake causes liquifaction of that soft compressible gumbo it is apparently founded on. Wow.
Yeah... Makes me wonder if it was built to SF's earthquake code in the first place.
Re: Engineering/Construction fail in the works in SF
Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2016 4:56 pm
by Pawpaw
Dave2 wrote:philip964 wrote:Imagine what will happen when an earthquake causes liquifaction of that soft compressible gumbo it is apparently founded on. Wow.
Yeah... Makes me wonder if it was built to SF's earthquake code in the first place.
It probably was... give or take a kickback or two.
Re: Engineering/Construction fail in the works in SF
Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2016 6:11 pm
by JALLEN
Don't you love "Yes, Minister!" And the sequel "Yes, Prime Minister!"?
For those in the dark, these are British tv series from the early '80's, certainly comedy, about the best written and acted series I've ever seen.
The episodes are online now.
Here's the first one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dzhSeUgcYk&sns=em
Re: Engineering/Construction fail in the works in SF
Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2016 6:57 pm
by RicoTX
I watch them all the time! Never talked to anyone else who had even heard of the shows....they are very funny indeed and likely close to the real thing in many areas . A memorable line is when Hacker asks Bernerd "Whose side will the Civil Service be on?" and his response is "the winning side".
Re: Engineering/Construction fail in the works in SF
Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2016 7:27 pm
by philip964
Pawpaw wrote:Dave2 wrote:philip964 wrote:Imagine what will happen when an earthquake causes liquifaction of that soft compressible gumbo it is apparently founded on. Wow.
Yeah... Makes me wonder if it was built to SF's earthquake code in the first place.
It probably was... give or take a kickback or two.
San Fransisco is very strict code wise. They are liberals. They will take your money and then words prohibited on this forum.
They have no shame.
Re: Engineering/Construction fail in the works in SF
Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2016 8:30 pm
by ELB
The Yes, Minister/Yes, Prime Minister series is superb. It is one of the few long-running series that didn't seem to become tired long before it ended.
Unfortunately it was eerily prescient, despite its setting in a different nation, of how contemptuous of its citizens a large part of the civil service has become.