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...to be behind bars.

On the serious note, I'd like to pose a question to all forum members.

What do you fear the most about Hillary presidency?

For me, I expect something equivalent of Nacht der langen Messer (Night of the long knives) purge to occur very quickly.

Then, more illegals, more diseases, more government workers, gun confiscation, Civil War, more terrorism and the list goes on.

There is absolutely zero positives that I can think of with the witch occupying the WH.

In my opinion, she would be far worse then even BO. She is a lot more experienced in her criminality, whereas BO had to get some schooling first...

I fear for the destruction of our country as we know it.

While it may not happen during her presidency (I threw up in my mouth a little as I typed that), I fear for Civil War II to occur due to the destruction which will be caused if she is elected.

First and foremost- ending up with a Supreme Court that has a major majority of progressive/liberal/socialist judges, not a 5-4 majority but more like 6-3 or 7-2.
This would allow the Constitution to be shredded with impunity from local courts all the way up to SCOTUS in order to achieve the goals of the progressives and one world government types.

bblhd672 wrote:First and foremost- ending up with a Supreme Court that has a major majority of progressive/liberal/socialist judges, not a 5-4 majority but more like 6-3 or 7-2.
This would allow the Constitution to be shredded with impunity from local courts all the way up to SCOTUS in order to achieve the goals of the progressives and one world government types.

This. The Supreme Court is supposed to protect the Constitution from the government. It should be non partisan and apolitical. If that satanic woman takes the helm of our nation, that will no longer be the case at all. The destruction of the constitution affords the federal government absolute power. Once that is fully carried out, whatever commie is in power at the time will simply declare themselves supreme ruler for life. The Grand Experiment will be over.

VOTE TRUMP.

I agree with the thread consensus.

The USA was a grand experiment. For the first time in history we saw what could happen if the people were entrusted with rights and freedoms and the government was subject to the ultimate authority of the governed. The results? A heck of a lot of good. A country that people everywhere risk wealth and even their safety to reach. Tremendous economic growth. Free men and women living free. And also a fair amount of bad.

This experiment has been coming to an end for a while. 80 or so years after it was started, the federal government went to war to force groups of people from leaving and forming their own government (kind of ironic given that we had just recently broken away from Britain). Then we had the reign of FDR and increased government regulation. Followed by LBJ, etc. The intent was always good, but each of these actions tore at the basic principles that the government exists solely to preserve the basic rights of the people and that the people should be free to live their lives without government oversight and control.

The one thing that has preserved at least some shreds of our experiment is the right of the people to keep and bear arms. This is the only real, effective, check on the natural inclination of the government to do what governments have always done throughout history. Oppress the people at the whim of those in power. Hillary will set in motion the steps necessary to remove this last remaining obstacle that is keeping the USA from being like every other society throughout history. It will start with banning of "dangerous" weapons, with an ever increasing definition of that term, then registration, then another "tragedy" that is used as a pre-text for straight up confiscation. We may not see the end of the American experiment during Hillary's presidency, but we will see steps taken that put this nation down that path with no hope of reversing course.

bblhd672 wrote:First and foremost- ending up with a Supreme Court that has a major majority of progressive/liberal/socialist judges, not a 5-4 majority but more like 6-3 or 7-2.
This would allow the Constitution to be shredded with impunity from local courts all the way up to SCOTUS in order to achieve the goals of the progressives and one world government types.

This.

I don't fear gun confiscation... That would be suicide, and would likely kick off Civil War II.

I worry about another AWB so that I can't get new mags for ARs or standard cap mags for my pistols. I also worry about threaded barrels since I own suppressors.

AJSully421 wrote:I don't fear gun confiscation... That would be suicide, and would likely kick off Civil War II.

I worry about another AWB so that I can't get new mags for ARs or standard cap mags for my pistols. I also worry about threaded barrels since I own suppressors.

These concerns would only impact me if I wanted to buy a gun I do not currently own. I am already sufficiently worried about the prospect of HRH being elected that I have stocked up on everything for my currently owned weapons (at least 4 magazines for each, extra springs and other parts, etc). I am a bit concerned about ammo availability as I only have about an 18 month supply at the moment. Other than that, I should be good. Maybe I will get serious about getting some reloading equipment.

I might even be tempted to sell a few things if prices were to spike high enough after another AWB.

With the last AWB, how did people prove that their guns were manufactured prior to the ban? I don't think there was any sort of registration required, but that would be another concern for me if it were required this time.

Soccerdad1995 wrote:

AJSully421 wrote:I don't fear gun confiscation... That would be suicide, and would likely kick off Civil War II.

I worry about another AWB so that I can't get new mags for ARs or standard cap mags for my pistols. I also worry about threaded barrels since I own suppressors.

These concerns would only impact me if I wanted to buy a gun I do not currently own. I am already sufficiently worried about the prospect of HRH being elected that I have stocked up on everything for my currently owned weapons (at least 4 magazines for each, extra springs and other parts, etc). I am a bit concerned about ammo availability as I only have about an 18 month supply at the moment. Other than that, I should be good. Maybe I will get serious about getting some reloading equipment.

I might even be tempted to sell a few things if prices were to spike high enough after another AWB.

With the last AWB, how did people prove that their guns were manufactured prior to the ban? I don't think there was any sort of registration required, but that would be another concern for me if it were required this time.

Some people took pictures of the guns and mailed them to themselves so the post mark was proof that they owned them before a certain date.

More importantly is how does the government prove- beyond a reasonable doubt- that you did not own them?

It is also important to know that there was not one federal case in 10 years where possession of a banned item was prosecuted alone. There were a few where it was added to other, more serious, federal crimes.

AJSully421 wrote:Some people took pictures of the guns and mailed them to themselves so the post mark was proof that they owned them before a certain date.
More importantly is how does the government prove- beyond a reasonable doubt- that you did not own them?
It is also important to know that there was not one federal case in 10 years where possession of a banned item was prosecuted alone. There were a few where it was added to other, more serious, federal crimes.

When the 2A is disregarded, I don't think the imperial gov't is going to care much about proving anything other than you have it and they want to take it away from you.
Previous history doesn't count any longer - there will be a new Clinton in office, one much less concerned about the rights of the commoners.

There's a reason that the federal agencies have been getting increasingly armed, and that's because they know that only hope of confiscating all the weapons is going to be by federal agents.

"What do you fear the most about Hillary presidency?"

She is ill equipped to fight the final world war which started on 9-11 . In the end, every action she takes will aid and abet the enemy.

With her supreme court, the Constitution would skip right over "living document" all the way to undead.

But would the corruption what would follow her, Soros, and the Clinton Foundation into the White House do more damage to America than her supreme court restructuring? I don't have a clue. I don't want to know.

As far as I am concerned you can print up the ballots for "Hillary" and "Not Hillary", I'll be voting for "Not Hillary". That being said, our country is currently being run by the judiciary and bureaucracy. I don't know how important the position of President is in our current situation. Congress has willfully handed their legislative duties over to unelected bureaucrats so as not be be politically exposed for unpopular decisions. Congress can fix this at anytime, but seems to have no will to do so.

We currently have 5 Justices ultimately deciding all the legal and moral issues for our nation. President Trump can say, "I'm going to do X,Y, and Z" but the courts can then say, "No you can't". President Hillary may say "I'm going to do A, B, and C", although it is completely contrary to law, while leftist courts say "We are not going to hear that case" when anyone protests. It is the courts who are in control now.

The answer is for Congress to restrict the power of the courts. We cannot bet the future of our nation on keeping leftist judges out of the courts. The answer is to curtail their power and influence.

My biggest fears of a Hillary Presidency:

1) A fully leftist Supreme Court with unbridled power
2) National bankruptcy as the debt continues to bloom. A major economic crisis spurred by another major recession or depression as the phantom recover we have been living under fades.
3) A Russian/Arab alliance in the middle east
4) Civil unrest as anarchist movements and terrorist factions operate freely on the mainland.

I could go on, but I'll leave it at that.

Civil War!