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WA: This doesn't sound kosher...
Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2016 3:33 pm
by ELB
King County using customer grocery store data to target pet owners, send licensing notices
Turns out for the last four years, King County has been using data companies to target specific taxpayers, or in this case pet owners. That means every time customers swipe those rewards cards, they're gathering data.
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The letter told pet owners to license their pets or face a $250 fine.
Re: WA: This doesn't sound kosher...
Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2016 4:45 pm
by Rex B
Yet another reason I don't use "loyalty" cards, and I don't patronize stores that require them.
Re: WA: This doesn't sound kosher...
Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2016 5:51 pm
by C-dub
I don't use them either and when they ask me I just say that I don't have one and don't want one. Many times they scan one they keep at the register.
Re: WA: This doesn't sound kosher...
Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2016 6:01 pm
by rbwhatever1
It's amazing how far we've come in such a short time. Private Citizens used to enjoy the Privacy of being a Citizen in these United States and we kept a very close eye on Public Servants. It's been flipped upside down and now we don't have a clue what our Government is doing at most levels and they know every single aspect of our lives.
Re: WA: This doesn't sound kosher...
Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2016 6:13 pm
by imkopaka
I used to live in King County. My family still does. I'm not pleased. You'll note the article said the county was PAYING the company that manages the data. They are spending taxpayer dollars to spy on the taxpayers. How absolutely bereft of morals.
Re: WA: This doesn't sound kosher...
Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2016 6:17 pm
by C-dub
I found out years ago that my city uses google maps and or earth to view peoples' back yards or property to see if they've made any improvements without getting permits and then going after them with fines for not getting the permits and upping the property values by either demanding they inspect or just guestimataing the value increased.
Re: WA: This doesn't sound kosher...
Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2016 6:23 pm
by puma guy
rbwhatever1 wrote:It's amazing how far we've come in such a short time. Private Citizens used to enjoy the Privacy of being a Citizen in these United States and we kept a very close eye on Public Servants. It's been flipped upside down and now we don't have a clue what our Government is doing at most levels and they know every single aspect of our lives.
As a friend of mine who lost his tort against Guadalupe/Blanco River Authority for destroying his property says; "Government has become King". He took it all the way to the Texas Supreme Court.
Re: WA: This doesn't sound kosher...
Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 6:17 am
by RoyGBiv
I've been paying my sin taxes in cash for years, for just this reason.
Liquor store? Cash.
Occasional cigar? Cash.
All the fast food is actually for my kids, so, they/I use the card for most of that.
Although the diet lemonade at Chick-fil-A is pretty awesome.

Re: WA: This doesn't sound kosher...
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 11:51 am
by sheary
imkopaka wrote:I used to live in King County. My family still does. I'm not pleased. You'll note the article said the county was PAYING the company that manages the data.
I don't see the problem as long as they're collecting more from scofflaws in license fees and fines than they're spending on enforcement.
Re: WA: This doesn't sound kosher...
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 2:00 pm
by Jusme
What is the licensing requirement? My dogs are all unlicensed, they are current on all required vaccinations, but I don't pay a government entity for a license. I pay a veterinarian for a tag, that he keeps on file. Do you have to have a license to own a dog? I didn't submit to a background check, but then I didn't go through FDD (Federal Dog Dealer)
Is there a dog show loophole?

Re: WA: This doesn't sound kosher...
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 2:08 pm
by Soccerdad1995
sheary wrote:imkopaka wrote:I used to live in King County. My family still does. I'm not pleased. You'll note the article said the county was PAYING the company that manages the data.
I don't see the problem as long as they're collecting more from scofflaws in license fees and fines than they're spending on enforcement.
A couple questions:
How long ago did you move here?
How do you like the weather here compared to back home in Kalifornia?
Re: WA: This doesn't sound kosher...
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 2:16 pm
by MechAg94
Jusme wrote:What is the licensing requirement? My dogs are all unlicensed, they are current on all required vaccinations, but I don't pay a government entity for a license. I pay a veterinarian for a tag, that he keeps on file. Do you have to have a license to own a dog? I didn't submit to a background check, but then I didn't go through FDD (Federal Dog Dealer)
Is there a dog show loophole?

Yes, if they had to, a better law would have been to simply require all pets be vaccinated and keep proof of that handy when outside or on city property. Then they could still issue fines for failure to get the vaccinations without the oppressive licensing requirement.
Re: WA: This doesn't sound kosher...
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 2:21 pm
by Jusme
MechAg94 wrote:Jusme wrote:What is the licensing requirement? My dogs are all unlicensed, they are current on all required vaccinations, but I don't pay a government entity for a license. I pay a veterinarian for a tag, that he keeps on file. Do you have to have a license to own a dog? I didn't submit to a background check, but then I didn't go through FDD (Federal Dog Dealer)
Is there a dog show loophole?

Yes, if they had to, a better law would have been to simply require all pets be vaccinated and keep proof of that handy when outside or on city property. Then they could still issue fines for failure to get the vaccinations without the oppressive licensing requirement.
Maybe they could do a dog buy back to get dangerous dogs off the streets and away from criminals.
Do they have a maximum capacity for puppies carried by a female dog? Nobody needs more than ten puppies.

Re: WA: This doesn't sound kosher...
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 2:21 pm
by Jusme
MechAg94 wrote:Jusme wrote:What is the licensing requirement? My dogs are all unlicensed, they are current on all required vaccinations, but I don't pay a government entity for a license. I pay a veterinarian for a tag, that he keeps on file. Do you have to have a license to own a dog? I didn't submit to a background check, but then I didn't go through FDD (Federal Dog Dealer)
Is there a dog show loophole?

Yes, if they had to, a better law would have been to simply require all pets be vaccinated and keep proof of that handy when outside or on city property. Then they could still issue fines for failure to get the vaccinations without the oppressive licensing requirement.
Maybe they could do a dog buy back to get dangerous dogs off the streets and away from criminals.
Do they have a maximum capacity for puppies carried by a female dog? Nobody needs more than ten puppies.

Re: WA: This doesn't sound kosher...
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 6:36 pm
by Alf
It depends on the pet. Pot bellied pigs are definitely not kosher.