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Are "Pit Maneuvers" Still Used?

Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 11:06 am
by Abraham
I watch "Alaska State Troopers" and have never seen them use a "Pit Maneuver" on a fleeing vehicle and wonder if this method is no longer used by LE?

P.S. ...and I wouldn't expect them to use it on icy/snowy road conditions, but only on dry roads.

I wonder if this method of putting a fleeing vehicle out of commission has been found a problem for reasons of liability or too dangerous for LE or ...?

Anyone know?

Thanks!

Re: Are "Pit Maneuvers" Still Used?

Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 1:03 pm
by Jusme
Abraham wrote:I watch "Alaska State Troopers" and have never seen them use a "Pit Maneuver" on a fleeing vehicle and wonder if this method is no longer used by LE?

P.S. ...and I wouldn't expect them to use it on icy/snowy road conditions, but only on dry roads.

I wonder if this method of putting a fleeing vehicle out of commission has been found a problem for reasons of liability or too dangerous for LE or ...?

Anyone know?

Thanks!

It is still used, and if executed properly is very effective. I don't know what Alaska's policies may be, but it could be that icy/snowy conditions would be detrimental, and harder to execute. I haven't heard of any legal ramifications, causing it to be discontinued, but I know it was used in Dallas about a year ago on a fleeing vehicle.

Re: Are "Pit Maneuvers" Still Used?

Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 1:34 pm
by Abraham
Jusme,

Thank you for your response.

I used to watch a variety of police documentary type shows often seeing the "Pit Maneuver" used and yes, quite effectively.

Of late, I just don't see it used and thought perhaps, given the sue happy public and the higher ups possibly wavering, it had been banned.

I'm glad I'm wrong.

Re: Are "Pit Maneuvers" Still Used?

Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 1:46 pm
by RogueUSMC
I witnessed CHP do it on I-10 near San Bernardino once...pretty cool to watch...

Re: Are "Pit Maneuvers" Still Used?

Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2016 8:43 am
by Jusme
They do have to use discretion when using the PIT maneuver. Other vehicles on the road have to be taken into consideration as well as pedestrians. If you notice on protracted pursuits, with the news coverage, people sometimes line the streets to watch the "show". Making getting the BG stopped that much harder.

Re: Are "Pit Maneuvers" Still Used?

Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2016 4:21 pm
by WildBill
AndyC wrote:I've had occasion to use it overseas (I was trained in Offensive Driving first in South Africa then more formally trained at Hereford in England) and we were always told that the use thereof should be considered lethal force; perhaps that's (becoming) a similar concept here among police?
I have read that it depends on the speed of the vehicles.