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Interesting documentary on PBS centered around the hunt for the truth concerning the slaying of Kitty conducted by one of her brothers. Very eye opening about the myth of the 38 eye witnesses( by the Press and Police), Kitty, Kitty,s family and the Killer and one of his excuse making sons. Catch it if you have a chance.

I watched The Witness recently. Interesting, with some details I hadn't heard before. It doesn't tell the whole story - no book, documentary, or movie ever can - but I think it helped my understanding of the sad events.

1. It still boils down to at least a couple of people who might have been able to help who either chose not to or dithered until it was too late.
2. Actions have consequences far beyond the scene of the crime.
3. There are monsters.

I agree that there were some people who were cowards .in my thinking, and could have helped. However, it was not the 38 the lying NewYork Times sensationalized.

I missed the opening. Apparently, it was the Witness.....eye opening. As the brother said, we will never know the whole truth.

I looked up the story a while back, curious because of seeing AndyC's signature Line. Tragic story.

The story as reported by the NY Times is mainly fiction.

No movie producer can get "the truth" 50 years after the fact, when the critical facts are are locked in the minds of any remaining witnesses. I too saw a documentary on her murder and it called into question the number of "witnesses." They interviewed people who lived in the surrounding apartments at the time and few were then willing to admit what they did or did not do. Most were trying to minimize what they heard and/or saw. It would take a rare person indeed to admit that they heard screams for help or watched the attack and did nothing. If I remember correctly, she was attacked by the same person twice, with some time, great or small, between the attacks. A call to the police could have given time for a response between the two. As for the women who claimed to have called the police, who knows. I find it much easier to believe that no call was made then to believe NYPD simply ignored it.

There may have not been as many as 38 people who saw or heard the attacks and did nothing, but I don't believe for a second that it was "only a couple." I'm with Andy, no Kitty Genovese in Texas!!!

Chas.

The documentary I saw showed the police log which showed a report being called in.

WTR wrote:The documentary I saw showed the police log which showed a report being called in.

One report is pretty telling. Did the dispatch log indicate a unit was dispatched?

Chas.

Charles L. Cotton wrote:

WTR wrote:The documentary I saw showed the police log which showed a report being called in.

One report is pretty telling. Did the dispatch log indicate a unit was dispatched?

Chas.

Not that I saw.

I am dismayed at how many people proudly proclaim they would stand by and allow a repeat of this tragedy.

mojo84 wrote:I am dismayed at how many people proudly proclaim they would stand by and allow a repeat of this tragedy.

Who is doing that?

Redneck_Buddha wrote:

mojo84 wrote:I am dismayed at how many people proudly proclaim they would stand by and allow a repeat of this tragedy.

Who is doing that?

Just take note of the folks that proudly proclaim they carry only carry for the defense "me and mine", will not get involved and will only stand by and serve as a "good witness". These things have been repeated many many times on this forum.

Redneck_Buddha wrote:

mojo84 wrote:I am dismayed at how many people proudly proclaim they would stand by and allow a repeat of this tragedy.

Who is doing that?

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For most of my adult life, my job was to ride to the sound of the guns. No longer. According to the Army, I'm too old and disabled. If not directly engaged, my wife and her .38 will lead the withdrawal and I will bring up the rear. The person I designate will call 911 when prudent. This is the plan we practice. As with most things in life, it comes down to which risks we are willing to manage, which benefits matter most, and which decisions we can live with. I preform my risk analysis each time I leave the house.

I am well aware of my own abilities and limitations. If I can defend innocents while protecting those for whom I am primarily responsible, I will try to do so.