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LTC individual has ND at Houston Galleria

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 12:55 am
by philip964
http://www.click2houston.com/news/houst ... t-galleria

Near as I can tell his gun fell from his back pack and discharged in the Galleria shopping mall in Houston.

DA did not charge him. He apparently will be banned from the Galleria for violating their rules.

Obviously, this has not done the rest of us any favors.

Re: LTC individual has ND at Houston Galleria

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:33 am
by Flightmare
http://abc13.com/news/one-detained-afte ... a/1734826/
A man was at the counter making a purchase, he dropped a backpack, causing the gun to fire.

No one was hit, police said.

A man inside dropped a backpack with the gun inside.
This is one reason why it is better to keep your firearm on your person. Wish we knew more about what sort of gun and if it was in a holster in his backpack.

Re: LTC individual has ND at Houston Galleria

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 4:20 am
by infoman
He must have a criminal charge pending to lose the license. If DA rejects charge, he's ok.

Re: LTC individual has ND at Houston Galleria

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 6:45 am
by jmra
How many makes of modern firearms will discharge from an impact without the trigger being pulled?

Re: LTC individual has ND at Houston Galleria

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 6:58 am
by Jusme
jmra wrote:How many makes of modern firearms will discharge from an impact without the trigger being pulled?

The report says the gun was "improperly secured" so I would guess, it was not in a holster, and something inside the backpack activated the trigger.

:banghead:

Re: LTC individual has ND at Houston Galleria

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 6:59 am
by TexasCajun
jmra wrote:How many makes of modern firearms will discharge from an impact without the trigger being pulled?
It's possible that the trigger may have been inadvertently pulled by something else in the backpack when it fell.

From the Ch2 article:
Police said the man did have a permit to carry, but his weapon was improperly secured.

Re: LTC individual has ND at Houston Galleria

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:22 am
by Oldgringo
A gun in a backpack must be pretty handy, eh? :roll:

Re: LTC individual has ND at Houston Galleria

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:27 am
by Liberty
There is no excuse for not carrying any gun in a holster, but It's worthwhile to note that these type of things just don't happen with a modern 1911 or DA/SA gun.

Re: LTC individual has ND at Houston Galleria

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:28 am
by dlh
This is what happens when (1) you carry with a round in the chamber, and (2) when you fail to properly secure your handgun.

Bad press for all of us who safely carry. The anti-gunners of course will jump on this one.

Re: LTC individual has ND at Houston Galleria

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:35 am
by Liberty
dlh wrote:This is what happens when (1) you carry with a round in the chamber, and (2) when you fail to properly secure your handgun.

Bad press for all of us who safely carry. The anti-gunners of course will jump on this one.
In an emergency, a rock in one's pocket might be more useful than an unloaded handgun floating around in a backpack.

Re: LTC individual has ND at Houston Galleria

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:00 am
by bmwrdr
jmra wrote:How many makes of modern firearms will discharge from an impact without the trigger being pulled?
I'd say none. That said I conclude he was either not familiar with his firearm and mishandled it or there was a factory flaw. We may never find out.

Re: LTC individual has ND at Houston Galleria

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:05 am
by Skiprr
infoman wrote:He must have a criminal charge pending to lose the license. If DA rejects charge, he's ok.
Well, he may be okay with respect to his legal record and CHL/LTC. But he's still an absolute idiot, so he's far from okay in that regard. Stupidity hurts.

Re: LTC individual has ND at Houston Galleria

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:20 am
by jmra
Skiprr wrote:
infoman wrote:He must have a criminal charge pending to lose the license. If DA rejects charge, he's ok.
Well, he may be okay with respect to his legal record and CHL/LTC. But he's still an absolute idiot, so he's far from okay in that regard. Stupidity hurts.
:iagree:
I would expect something like this from the average American Joe buying his first handgun, but you would think that someone that's gone through an LTC class would know better.

Re: LTC individual has ND at Houston Galleria

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:22 am
by cmgee67
dlh wrote:This is what happens when (1) you carry with a round in the chamber, and (2) when you fail to properly secure your handgun.

Bad press for all of us who safely carry. The anti-gunners of course will jump on this one.
Hold on there partner. Carrying a round in the chamber is perfectly ok. There is nothing wrong with it. Today's modern handguns such as a glock cannot be fired unless the trigger is pulled. There is a metal plunger that must be depressed to allow the firing pin to go forward and fire. A modern striker fire won't go off if it's dropped from 5 feet off the ground. But It doesn't specify what kind of handgun it was. It could have been a 1911 with the safety off and cocked. It could have been a a striker fired hand gun and something got inside the trigger guard. I have had to carry my firearm in a back pack before but It was holstered in kydex and trigger completely covered and guess what? It was hot. No problem.

Here's the thing. If you don't feel comfortable carrying one in the chamber then ok don't do it. But if you think you are going to be just as fast as a guy who has one in the pipe your wrong. It's physically impossible. In a self defense situation tenths of seconds count. If you have a good holster that covers the trigger guard and good finger control then you will be fine.