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The other day I was reading a Taurus magazine and found out some things I
was not aware of.

Up until about 1 year ago, Taurus was producing their firearms at 3 separate
sites in a city in S.E. Brazil. They didn't have room to expand and having 3 sites
was not efficient.

So they moved to a suburb of their original city, built a state of the art manufacturing
facility, and moved all production from the previous 3 sites under the 1 roof.
This has lead to improved productivity and quality. They have plenty of land on which
to expand the factory.

They source tiny items, such as screws and springs, from outside vendors.
Taurus produces the major parts of the firearms themselves.

The Taurus bull logo has been changed up to look different.

Their new tag line is "Always Bring It" which to my mind says:
1. Always carry your Taurus firearm.
2. Be in the mindset of "bringing it" to any threat.

Later in 2017 Taurus officials said that they will be introducing some very
different firearms to market. There was no indications as to what these
innovative firearms. Hopefully not another Curve.

Their best selling gun is the Taurus Millenium PT111, G2, in 9MM.

I would like to think that with the new factory and quality emphasis, that Taurus
can improve their perception/reality with the shooting public.

SIA

Don't get your hopes up too soon. I bought a pt111 g2 over a month ago and the store I bought it from wouldn't let me try the trigger out but everything else I could function worked great. I got home tested the trigger and it was fine then engaged the safety and tested the trigger and click the gun would fire. It would do it over and over with the safety on. I checked to make sure I had pushed it up all the way and yes I did. I called Taurus and they told me it should not be doing that ( obviously) and to go back to the seller and ask for a different gun and have them ship the gun I bought back to Taurus so I wouldn't be with out a gun. I was floored at that statement. I went back to the place I bought it (same day) and they shipped it off. I told them what Taurus had said and they said you can't do that. I told them yes I know that. So after owning the pistol one hour it had already giving me a major malfunction. Taurus told me 6-8 weeks is usual turn around. Friday will make week 5. You can check on your repair status by entering your serial number and zip code and it still tells me it has arrived and is waiting for repair. I bought the gun because I heard it was awesome and reliable and for the money you can't beat it. I own a Taurus model 85 that I love that my wife uses for bed side duty and was thinking before i bought the G2 that it would be exceptional as well. That was a big fat nope. I'm afraid to even sell the gun when I get it back because I don't want that worry of somebody getting it and the safety doesn't work and then they accidentally have a ND. I will never buy Any Semi automatic Taurus again. The revolvers on the other hand are ok to me. I'm sorry if this bursts your bubble because it sure bust mine. I wanted to give them a real chance.

I recently watched two separate shows regarding Taurus's remarkable turn around regarding their new approach to manufacturing guns with great emphasis on quality and innovation. (I think it was aired on "The Sportsman Channel")

Without going into detail, the upshot was Taurus is now making super-duper high quality, innovative guns.

Yeah, sure...

Nicely engineered guns, Too bad about their lack of quality and hammers. Guns with hammers are getting scarce. Unfortunately guns without QC not so much so.

I have worked in the past for several LE depts. and around many small agencies, none of which Taurus was allowed other than a BUG, I never saw anyone with one either, also in a lifetime of pistol matches of all types ever saw but 1 or 2. For me that would say a lot. Even back in the revolver only days the same, only Colt, S&W or Ruger allowed.
The only 1st had experience I saw was in an IPSC match of a hammer breaking and loaning the shooter a pistol to finish.

My son's first handgun was a Taurus PT-1911. Out of the box, it seemed like an extraordinarily good deal for a 1911 with all the usual upgrades - ambi-safety, beaver tail grip safety, lowered/flared ejection port, Heinie "8" sights, etc., etc.

At around the same time, I had acquired a Kimber Ultra Carry, which also had those features plus Trijicon night sights. From the get-go, my Kimber had a lot of malfunctions, mostly consisting of the slide locking back before the magazine was empty. At first, I thought it was a break-in problem and kept trying to run rounds through it. After mentioning the problem on this forum here, someone told me that it was actually a Kimber production problem - that they had released a number of Ultra Carry guns with a defective slide stop, and that if I phoned them, they'd send me a replacement part for free. Apparently, the little tip of the slide stop that catches on the emptied magazine's follower was very slightly improperly shaped, and it would somehow snag that puppy before the mag was emptied. I know.....it's hard to picture how that would happen on a magazine where the follower is depressed under a stack of cartridges, but that's what was happening.

I did receive the replacement slide-stop at no cost to me in the mail a few days later, swapped out defective one for the new one, and that immediately cleared up the problem. Here's where it gets interesting........

I hung onto the defective part, thinking no doubt at the time that maybe it would prove useful in another pistol, and it was just sitting in the factory case my Kimber came in. One day, my son and I are at Elm Fork, and he's shooting his Taurus, and I'm shooting my Kimber. At that point, the Taurus had had maybe 500-600 total rounds of commercially-produced standard pressure FMJ fired through it since it was purchased. All of a sudden, his Taurus jams. At first inspection, it looks like the slide stop pin had somehow worked its way out of the frame under fire, because it was protruding a bit. We cleared the gun and pulled the slide stop out of the frame the rest of the way, and it immediately became apparent what had happened.

The Taurus's slide stop pin had broken clean in half right where it passed through the barrel link. The gun was offline for the rest of the day, unless someone has a spare slide stop. "Hey," says me, "I have a spare defective Kimber slide stop in me gun case......let's see if it works!" So we put that defective Kimber slide stop into the Taurus, and the Taurus was back online.

That was in mid-2008. That Taurus still has that "defective" Kimber part in it, and it still works just fine. Having heard even back then of Taurus's poor customer service, we never contacted the factory to get them to send another slide stop, knowing that they would most likely require us to send them the pistol. To heck we that.....we had already solved the problem, at no cost to ourselves. Of course, my son eventually acquired his own Kimber Pro Raptor, and that Taurus only gets brought out for "shooting parties" where we have multiple shooters in different lanes.

That Taurus is the only 1911 I've ever seen break a slide stop pin clean in half. That is an absolutely critical failure that takes the gun out of play until someone with the right parts comes along to fix it. I would never trust my life to that kind of QC. That it would work with a part that Kimber considered defective does not speak well for Taurus's manufacturing tolerances. The broken slide stop pin (which is supposed to be hardened steel) does not speak well for Taurus's metallurgy.

I know that there are lots of people who bought and carry the polymer PT911 in various calibers, and have never had a metallurgical failure; but we did have such a failure. Happily, it happened at a shooting range, and not in the middle of a gunfight. If it had happened in the middle of a gunfight, my son would likely be dead.

Let that sink in.

No thank you, I'll not be buying any Taurus products......regardless of what their logo looks like (an utterly unimportant detail).

I have the latest model G2 (about 18 months old) and I have experienced zero problems with it and have shot it in IDPA competition as a BUG. It will shoot groups as good as my Glock with an after market barrel, but I know two guns only one serial number apart make shoot/group differently.

In the beginning the trigger pull was a little heavy, but I took it apart and polished everything up and dropped it to about 5-lbs clean. I love the gun and carry it often.

I think Taurus is underrated and gets a bad rep more often than they deserve, but it would be nice to see them improve QC. The G2 has a second strike capability which is like a short light double action. I understand some people have asked for a DA only version and I think this could be accomplished by pinning the SA sear out of the way, or by removing the SA sear all together. An experiment probably better left to Taurus I am sure, but having the gun in DAO would increase the safety factor as the striker would not be pre-tensioned.

On mine when the manual thumb safety is engaged the trigger will not release striker.

I genuinely want Taurus to succeed simply because they make a wide variety of guns at a price that is appealing. I have 3 of their guns (2 semi and one revolver) and while they aren't the best guns I own, they all work and work well. The PT92 has a permanent place next to my bed as that thing is a tank and its single action is nearly as good as my 1911.

I have had to deal with Taurus' customer service since the mag release on my PT92 did have an issue early on. I sent it back and got the gun back two weeks later and they fixed that, replaced my beat up grip screws and swapped out one other part for a newer one. Not an unpleasant experience by a long shot.

Not all of their stuff is good, the double action on my .22 revolver as an example, and not everyone wants to take a $300 chance. I'm kinda glad I did and I would really be happy if their quality went up a notch or three.