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TX: Fed Judge Dismisses UT Profs Campus Carry Lawsuito
Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:20 pm
by ELB
Attorney General Ken Paxton today lauded a federal court decision to dismiss a complaint by three professors at the University of Texas at Austin regarding Senate Bill 11, the campus carry law. In their lawsuit, the professors claimed that the legislation passed by the Texas Legislature would have a “chilling effect” and stifle class discussion in their courses.
https://texasattorneygeneral.gov/news/r ... ry-lawsuit
Re: TX: Fed Judge Dismisses UT Profs Campus Carry Lawsuito
Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 1:49 pm
by RossA
Some good news out of a federal court.
Re: TX: Fed Judge Dismisses UT Profs Campus Carry Lawsuito
Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 2:12 pm
by treadlightly
They sued the university president? Bet that showed him what up-and-comers those professors are!

Re: TX: Fed Judge Dismisses UT Profs Campus Carry Lawsuito
Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 2:25 pm
by Abraham
How 'chilling' would a concealed firearm be or is OC going to be allowed?
(obviously I'm not well versed in this subject...)
Re: TX: Fed Judge Dismisses UT Profs Campus Carry Lawsuito
Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 2:33 pm
by Papa_Tiger
Abraham wrote:How 'chilling' would a concealed firearm be or is OC going to be allowed?
(obviously I'm not well versed in this subject...)
Now they don't know if there could be a person who legally has a handgun there so they must now be careful about what they say in case said handgun decides to go off. Because nobody ever carried a gun illegally anywhere...

Re: TX: Fed Judge Dismisses UT Profs Campus Carry Lawsuito
Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 3:18 pm
by The Annoyed Man
Let me get this straight..... They were suing the university president? What the heck did he have to do with passing the law? He was probably against it!
And these people have degrees and are employed to teach?
Jesus wept.
Re: TX: Fed Judge Dismisses UT Profs Campus Carry Lawsuito
Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 3:20 pm
by The Annoyed Man
Abraham wrote:How 'chilling' would a concealed firearm be or is OC going to be allowed?
(obviously I'm not well versed in this subject...)
Campus Carry does not allow OC, requiring that the gun be concealed.
Re: TX: Fed Judge Dismisses UT Profs Campus Carry Lawsuito
Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 4:58 pm
by tx85
The Annoyed Man wrote:Let me get this straight..... They were suing the university president? What the heck did he have to do with passing the law? He was probably against it!
The UT President was sued (in addition to the State/AG and UT Board of Regents) because they were claiming that he had authority under the law to declare classrooms a gun exclusion zone or to delegate that authority to individual professors. That was just one of the many baseless claims they made in their complaint.
Article:
Federal judge throws out effort by UT professors to overturn campus carry
Hicks, who had not yet conferred with his clients when reached Friday, said he is not sure what course of action he and the plaintiffs will take. They have 28 days from July 6 to ask Yeakel for clarification and 30 days to file an appeal to the U.S. 5th Circuit Court of Appeals.
Re: TX: Fed Judge Dismisses UT Profs Campus Carry Lawsuito
Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 5:43 pm
by Jusme
What's even better, is that it will be a year, in August, since Campus Carry went into effect, and not one reported instance of anyone being shot on UT campus. The longer it goes, the more rediculous their argument becomes.
Re: TX: Fed Judge Dismisses UT Profs Campus Carry Lawsuito
Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 5:48 pm
by ninjabread
Why can these ivory tower princesses sue the UT President and Board of Regents over campus carry but we can't sue the Mayor and Police Chief when a city posts 30.06 signs?
Re: TX: Fed Judge Dismisses UT Profs Campus Carry Lawsuito
Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 6:07 pm
by dlh
No award of attorney's fees against the plaintiffs?...
Re: TX: Fed Judge Dismisses UT Profs Campus Carry Lawsuito
Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2017 2:16 am
by nightmare69
Great news.
Re: TX: Fed Judge Dismisses UT Profs Campus Carry Lawsuito
Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2017 7:34 pm
by tx85
dlh wrote:No award of attorney's fees against the plaintiffs?...
No attorney's fees, just other costs. From the final judgement:
IT IS ORDERED that Defendants, the prevailing parties in this action, shall recover their allowable costs incurred in this action. See Fed. R. Civ. P. 54(d)(1).
Here's what
Fed. R. Civ. P. 54(d)(1) says:
(1) Costs Other Than Attorney's Fees. Unless a federal statute, these rules, or a court order provides otherwise, costs—other than attorney's fees—should be allowed to the prevailing party. But costs against the United States, its officers, and its agencies may be imposed only to the extent allowed by law. The clerk may tax costs on 14 days’ notice. On motion served within the next 7 days, the court may review the clerk's action.
However, the AG and/or UT might be able to file a motion to ask for attorney's fees:
(2) Attorney's Fees.
(A) Claim to Be by Motion. A claim for attorney's fees and related nontaxable expenses must be made by motion unless the substantive law requires those fees to be proved at trial as an element of damages.
(B) Timing and Contents of the Motion. Unless a statute or a court order provides otherwise, the motion must:
(i) be filed no later than 14 days after the entry of judgment;
(ii) specify the judgment and the statute, rule, or other grounds entitling the movant to the award;
(iii) state the amount sought or provide a fair estimate of it; and
(iv) disclose, if the court so orders, the terms of any agreement about fees for the services for which the claim is made.
Re: TX: Fed Judge Dismisses UT Profs Campus Carry Lawsuito
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:03 pm
by tx85
Article:
UT profs say they will appeal ruling in campus carry lawsuit
Three University of Texas faculty members will appeal a federal judge’s ruling to dismiss their lawsuit over a state law that permits students to carry concealed handguns in most campus buildings.
On Monday, attorneys for professors Jennifer Lynn Glass, Lisa Moore and Mia Carter filed a notice saying they will appeal the decision to the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals.
Re: TX: Fed Judge Dismisses UT Profs Campus Carry Lawsuito
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 5:58 pm
by Soccerdad1995
The issue here is the 2nd amendment. So shouldn't these profs be suing the founders of this country? Or maybe the Texians who agreed to merge with the United States?
While we are at it, I don't like having to listen to liberal college professors. Who do I sue for giving them the right to free speech?